cc33 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Helllllllo all, sorry that I haven't been as active lately, work was getting crazy and then I took a short vacation. I just got back though to a parcel waiting for me, and I could not be happier. As some of you know I have been obsessed with big crowns for a long time and one of the models that I'm most obsessed with is the 6200. There's something about the 3-6-9 dials and A series movements thats very appealing, but they all had those super long hour hands that I was never able to find.... until now!! Phong has stainless ones that I will have to have gold plated to mimic gilt and relumed (Gen gilt hands were actually gold leafed not plated but that's the best I can do!) This is just the start, I also have the Gen dial plate sourced and am presently waiting for it to be redone, I guess the only thing I'm missing now is the a296 movement and a stem that fits an a296 and 8mm crown with a 1.1 mm thread... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbane883 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Giddyup!! I know it's hit and miss with Phong cases, but with those bevels, it looks like you got a winner. Man, that insert!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc33 Posted March 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I always ask for pics, if the bevels are messed up I refuse it. He really did well with these though you're right, I'm thrilled! Thanks, it's the only cool one I have so I just put it on whichever watch I'm using at the moment. All my poor watches have to share the same insert and bezel lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbane883 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Curious, were the gen 6200 plates etched/carved to hold the lume on the 5 minute markers like the gilt explorer dials? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezio Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Nice project CC time to sell your other one to me Then haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Dayum. Good LORD. You know what this means vis-a-vis your 6204 project, right? I'll send you my mailing address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Wow!! Wow!! I cannot wait to see the progress you make with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc33 Posted March 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 The 6204 project is aside because the case is not gen construction, the crystal sits in a grove in the case like the old mbw's.. There's no way to use any other than the one it came with, and the bezel doesn't hold a gen insert, it requires a larger one. The dial that was sourced was actually supposed to be used for the 6204, but now I will have it made as a 3-6-9 dial (same size and feet).. I'm not sure if the gen 6200 plate was countersunk but I know that most 3-6-9 dials from the various models weren't. A few were. I only have one other big crown and it is currently getting a new red dial put inside. I eventually would love to add a tudor big crown too, either that or a 5510. Three is a good number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVNE Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Holy moly! Subscribed!!! Can't wait to see the refinished dial. That case is beautiful!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmj Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Oh my that case is amazing. Can't wait to see the dial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droptopman Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Case looks great. Super good bevels. Looking forward to seeing this one come together. Dbane is right though. Man that insert is a beauty. Sent from my droptop using telepathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 This is incredible. I really want to see pics of the rest of your collection. I would also love to see a thread featuring everyone who has these genken builds all in one place. How amazing would that be? I aspire to someday follow in the footsteps that you guys are all leaving. This is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I am not sure about the seconds hand, but, otherwise, me likie what I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc33 Posted March 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 It will be sanded flat and plated, I think it will look ok after that. Thanks guys I will update after I get the dial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 It is my understanding that the hands on the first Submariners were brass due to their intended sea duty. I got my 13mm minute hand from Helenarou and gently sanded all the hands to bare brass using 1500 grit sandpaper. The chapter ring itself measures 26mm in diameter. The look of the watch really changes using the 13mm minute hand in place of the 12mm minute hand used since. Since the hand change, I love my 6204 as much as my 6542s. The 6542 uses a silver 13mm minute hand but 'standard' length hour hand. If I can find a Tiger V2 case, or if someone makes a gen style case for reasonable money, I will rebuild the 6204 and improve the dial as well. Your 6200 is awesome! Small crown joy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rower Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 You have a history of great builds! I am really looking forward to seeing your progress. Please post pictures often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kime Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I very nice project... I assume that is Phong's 6538 case with 6200 engravings? The case looks great. Not so sure about those hands though, in particular the minute hand looks very wrong around the base and the second hand not much better. I can't work out what Phong would have modelled these from but it could not have been using gen 6200 hands. The hour hand is better but again slightly off. A shame as I think this is only long arm hour hand out there. I would say ditch the minute and second hands for Michael Young (maybe) and use Phongs hour hand, then get all 3 hands plated to match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc33 Posted March 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Great advice, that's probably what I will do. It's a 6200 case through and through. It's thicker to accommodate the a296 movement and has a kind of bubble back case back. The inside of the case is different too, I'm fairly sure a 1030 wouldn't fit right inside it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywatch Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Great photos, look forward to following your build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesd Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 wow, those hands! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellone Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Awesome! Very nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesd Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 watching...waiting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc33 Posted April 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Such a slow process.. It has taught me to have patience if nothing else! The dial plate is prepped and ready, it will be a few weeks before I get to see how that turns out (I'm sure well) I've recently purchased another gen bezel so I don't have to keep swapping the only one I had between the 6200 and 6538. As soon as I have the dial I will update with pics, it's going to be a 3-6-9 dial with no depth rating or submariner text. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Can't wait to see it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesd Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Is the insert on this first post gen? I'm not a pro when it comes to rolex but that looks pretty nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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