Jovanotti Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 So for a Dial *like* this she sort of hastily threw out a min order of 500 at $24.95. I imagine she didn’t really think I was serious. I think 500 is a bit absurd. But 200 I can live with and if I’m stuck with inventory for a while I’ll survive. I see the structural supply issue as getting worse not better and I am willing to take a long term view on ideas like this. Apologies again it was a 5513 reference Dial but the price reflects the enamel paint job so not highly relevant. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflash Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 If you could supply HR with the artwork, e.g. a PDF file, it might help. I‘m sure you‘d be able to negotiate the amount of dials produced. Even 200 is a lot considering it’s a silkscreen process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavenly Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 Email no longer works (kicks back) dead. No responses. Cart cannot be checked out... BThe email on her website is wrong mate. She’s still doing business for sure. I just order dial and Bracelet from her. =] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markiemark Posted October 10, 2018 Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 The working email address is infor@rubyswatch.com, where on the website it says info@rubyswatch.com (mind the additional 'r') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandshawn Posted October 10, 2018 Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 No [censored]!?!? That would do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altesporsche Posted October 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/8/2018 at 1:13 AM, kilowattore said: Last reply I got from her was Oct 2. Did she disappear all.of a sudden? I still have her on what’s app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavenly Posted October 10, 2018 Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 The working email address is infor@rubyswatch.com, where on the website it says info@rubyswatch.com (mind the additional 'r')Yes yours is the same email as me Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawagner Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 So for a Dial *like* this she sort of hastily threw out a min order of 500 at $24.95. I imagine she didn’t really think I was serious. I think 500 is a bit absurd. But 200 I can live with and if I’m stuck with inventory for a while I’ll survive. I see the structural supply issue as getting worse not better and I am willing to take a long term view on ideas like this. Apologies again it was a 5513 reference Dial but the price reflects the enamel paint job so not highly relevant. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkHR did a single dial for me a couple times. Hope they didnt stop doing that. Been pretty happy with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovanotti Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 She has a few that you can pick from that are pretty sad looking. When I asked about a nicer there was a 500 min $24.95 Per. I just don’t think there’s magic to the guys that have the market cornered. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 "She has a few that you can pick from that are pretty sad looking." I too have noticed some of the higher priced dial offerings from the so called 'Premier Dealers" are not too hot. "When I asked about a nicer (dial) there was a 500 min $24.95 Per." Probably the same dials with better QC. My guess is the 'Premier Dealers' and dial makers are all in cahoots and the dial makers sell to them almost exclusively. "I just don’t think there’s magic to the guys that have the market cornered." I have a friend in the printing business and he figured it would cost $3000 to $5000 to get started in the dial printing business (dials without applied markers), including 2 or 3 cliché plates but not counting the dial blanks. He also said the same thing I did...applying the lume is the ONE thing that requires special training and/or practice. His estimate was for a high quality manually operated precision pad printer setup...not a low priced unit from eBay. Not counting the cost of the pad printer, each dial would probably cost $20 to $40 to make if you apply your own lume. If the dials are good enough to sell for $150 each...there is $$ to be made after paying for the printer. If a dial has two or more colors of letters/markers it means each dial will have to be printed 2 or 3 times so a high precision pad printer is required. You will also need an air brush and compressor to paint the dial blanks plus paint, thinner, print ink, and lume material. If you want 'Singer' Beyeler' etc stamped on the dial blanks, it will require a custom made stamp of some sort. A dedicated hobbyist could master the pad printing 'art' in a few months...if they were serious about it and have good eye to hand coordination and dexterity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manodeoro Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 16 hours ago, Dawagner said: On 10/8/2018 at 11:31 PM, Jovanotti said: So for a Dial *like* this she sort of hastily threw out a min order of 500 at $24.95. I imagine she didn’t really think I was serious. I think 500 is a bit absurd. But 200 I can live with and if I’m stuck with inventory for a while I’ll survive. I see the structural supply issue as getting worse not better and I am willing to take a long term view on ideas like this. Apologies again it was a 5513 reference Dial but the price reflects the enamel paint job so not highly relevant. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk HR did a single dial for me a couple times. Hope they didnt stop doing that. Been pretty happy with them. They still do ... silk screen printing They have "updated" the price, about $110 for custom printing + $49 for dial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manodeoro Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, automatico said: "She has a few that you can pick from that are pretty sad looking." I too have noticed some of the higher priced dial offerings from the so called 'Premier Dealers" are not too hot. "When I asked about a nicer (dial) there was a 500 min $24.95 Per." Probably the same dials with better QC. My guess is the 'Premier Dealers' and dial makers are all in cahoots and the dial makers sell to them almost exclusively. "I just don’t think there’s magic to the guys that have the market cornered." I have a friend in the printing business and he figured it would cost $3000 to $5000 to get started in the dial printing business (dials without applied markers), including 2 or 3 cliché plates but not counting the dial blanks. He also said the same thing I did...applying the lume is the ONE thing that requires special training and/or practice. His estimate was for a high quality manually operated precision pad printer setup...not a low priced unit from eBay. Not counting the cost of the pad printer, each dial would probably cost $20 to $40 to make if you apply your own lume. If the dials are good enough to sell for $150 each...there is $$ to be made after paying for the printer. If a dial has two or more colors of letters/markers it means each dial will have to be printed 2 or 3 times so a high precision pad printer is required. You will also need an air brush and compressor to paint the dial blanks plus paint, thinner, print ink, and lume material. If you want 'Singer' Beyeler' etc stamped on the dial blanks, it will require a custom made stamp of some sort. A dedicated hobbyist could master the pad printing 'art' in a few months...if they were serious about it and have good eye to hand coordination and dexterity. + 100 and I must agre ... though you don't like Air-Kings For some time I've been "studying" the technics with a friend who does his own pad printings (no dials and he already said "no" when I asked). Though his equipment is "medium grade" he gets really go results, even with multiple colors projects (I'm 100% certain he could print impressive dials if he only agreed to do). So the more I work with Illustrator and decals, the more I consider pad printing my own dials. Edited October 11, 2018 by manodeoro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 "+ 100 and I must agree ... though you don't like Air-Kings" Ha! I do like AKs and still have a few...5500 type and 14000M/14010M (M = cal 3130). I gathered the 5500 models up when they were fairly cheap and the 'M's when they were not very popular...plus one lonely 1002, now with a Yuki 'Explorer' dial. I even have a few replica oversize 36mm AKs from years past with 3-6-9 dials like an Explorer. I have worn a black dial 36mm AK rep quite a bit and never had anyone notice it was too big, not even rolex types. Now genuine AKs have swelled up to 40mm and the 'too big' 3-6-9 Explorers are too small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovanotti Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 "She has a few that you can pick from that are pretty sad looking." I too have noticed some of the higher priced dial offerings from the so called 'Premier Dealers" are not too hot. "When I asked about a nicer (dial) there was a 500 min $24.95 Per." Probably the same dials with better QC. My guess is the 'Premier Dealers' and dial makers are all in cahoots and the dial makers sell to them almost exclusively. "I just don’t think there’s magic to the guys that have the market cornered." I have a friend in the printing business and he figured it would cost $3000 to $5000 to get started in the dial printing business (dials without applied markers), including 2 or 3 cliché plates but not counting the dial blanks. He also said the same thing I did...applying the lume is the ONE thing that requires special training and/or practice. His estimate was for a high quality manually operated precision pad printer setup...not a low priced unit from eBay. Not counting the cost of the pad printer, each dial would probably cost $20 to $40 to make if you apply your own lume. If the dials are good enough to sell for $150 each...there is $$ to be made after paying for the printer. If a dial has two or more colors of letters/markers it means each dial will have to be printed 2 or 3 times so a high precision pad printer is required. You will also need an air brush and compressor to paint the dial blanks plus paint, thinner, print ink, and lume material. If you want 'Singer' Beyeler' etc stamped on the dial blanks, it will require a custom made stamp of some sort. A dedicated hobbyist could master the pad printing 'art' in a few months...if they were serious about it and have good eye to hand coordination and dexterity. This is a very interesting comment. Thank you. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manodeoro Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, automatico said: "+ 100 and I must agree ... though you don't like Air-Kings" Ha! I do like AKs and still have a few...5500 type and 14000M/14010M (M = cal 3130). I gathered the 5500 models up when they were fairly cheap and the 'M's when they were not very popular...plus one lonely 1002, now with a Yuki 'Explorer' dial. I even have a few replica oversize 36mm AKs from years past with 3-6-9 dials like an Explorer. I have worn a black dial 36mm AK rep quite a bit and never had anyone notice it was too big, not even rolex types. Now genuine AKs have swelled up to 40mm and the 'too big' 3-6-9 Explorers are too small. That was a joke ... refeering to you post here I really like "vintage" Air-Kings ... 14000 and previous models ... first because of their size (my wrist is 6.5) and because they stay "under the radar" even when patinated and shiny. I have only 2 cause I'm really new to that game but I consider strating an AKs collection ... 14000 OOTB and my recent 5500 build here that still need a lot of casework but I already like it. Next one will be a 4499 ... I'm already working both on dial design and case and I'm wondering how I'll do about the crown ... without going to Gen I mean. So that one could be a long-term project Then perhaps an older one, 4499 with second at 6:00, or a two-tone 5507 Edited October 12, 2018 by manodeoro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altesporsche Posted October 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 Fellas ruby is still in action, whatsapp’d her today and she got back to me quickly. She has some amazing 5517 bezel insterts on her page but has none. 😰 Fellas ruby is still in action, whatsapp’d her today and she got back to me quickly. She has some amazing 5517 bezel insterts on her page but has none. 😰 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sogeha Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 18 hours ago, altesporsche said: Fellas ruby is still in action, whatsapp’d her today and she got back to me quickly. She has some amazing 5517 bezel insterts on her page but has none. 😰 Fellas ruby is still in action, whatsapp’d her today and she got back to me quickly. She has some amazing 5517 bezel insterts on her page but has none. 😰 Ruby is fine, I am in contact on what’s app as well. So brother, amazing 5517 inserts gets my attention, better than Phong’s excellent font printed slightly small than gen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altesporsche Posted October 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Sogeha said: Ruby is fine, I am in contact on what’s app as well. So brother, amazing 5517 inserts gets my attention, better than Phong’s excellent font printed slightly small than gen? Yea I’ve never had trouble with her. She’s been good to me. Honestly Phongs is great I have them now in my 5517 and just recently seen Ruby’s but she has none and don’t know when she will have any lol but I think they are marginally better, the Fonts are larger and reaching more to the edges of the Insert. Here are a few photos, wish I could get one to see it in person. The serifs look nearly as good as the $2k low number reps that were done a few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflash Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 Yeap, tried to order the 5517 insert from her too. Let’s hope she gets them back in stock again soon. Until then Phong’s will have to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sogeha Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 Any of our resident experts care to comment about her 1016 cases? We really need a great 1016 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflash Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 Any of our resident experts care to comment about her 1016 cases? We really need a great 1016Don’t know about Ruby’s, but JMB’s are a great option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champagnesky Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 Don’t know about Ruby’s, but JMB’s are a great option.What dial is this? My whoopy says Hello 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altesporsche Posted October 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 23 hours ago, jackflash said: Yeap, tried to order the 5517 insert from her too. Let’s hope she gets them back in stock again soon. Until then Phong’s will have to do. That’s a beauty there mate ! Mine is off for a service at tickleshoes spa 😎 The JMB case is amazing ! That’s what I used for my space dweller build.. one that I regret selling lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflash Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 What dial is this?Just a Yuki that I aged slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adisuk Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 The price analogy and spending high dollars for a rep build doesn't make any sense. Buy the real watch and you don't loose. My opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now