tag Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 (edited) Check out the new watch incursore are talking about at the Xe Flottiglia MAS: http://www.xamas.com/ Too small to threaten Panerai, but will Panerai still call itself the italian diving combat watch afterwards? To be released in october. Edited September 4, 2007 by tag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Still a hefty looking watch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Oh. My. Gawd! They took the key features of a Panerai and totally ba5tard1zed it. WTF is up with that crown guard??? Why the California-style dial? As much as PAMs aren't really my cup of tea, I can at least appreciate the simplicity and minimalism of models like the 112h, that watch is just nasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Manny Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 It looks Soviet to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 It looks Soviet to me. Well, I'm never wearing a commie watch!! ...although I do own a Poljot watch, a replica of one worn by Yuri Gagarin...but that's because I'm into all things space and stuff...I'm sorry, did I just water down the force of my convictions with this inane chatter? Moving on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 To be released in october. "USA & CANADA J. A. Meyer 156 West Main St, Kutztown, Pa 19530, USA." You know, I have never gotten this -- exclusive AD rights business. Tangentially, Patek have one measely AD/official repair centre in all of the US too, whereas in Brazil they have two (H. Stern). WTF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Thanks for the advice, tag! Personally, that is one of the ugliest watches I ever happened to look at. Even not a full cali dial, just the upper half. The strap is gorgeous, though. And the "X" at 10Hr is funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willith Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Ugly as hell, but I asked for more info from the AD. I'm a sucker for a BIG watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt.watch.obsessive Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 "USA & CANADA J. A. Meyer 156 West Main St, Kutztown, Pa 19530, USA." You know, I have never gotten this -- exclusive AD rights business. Tangentially, Patek have one measely AD/official repair centre in all of the US too, whereas in Brazil they have two (H. Stern). WTF? Agreed, but North America is not as far up the list of luxury watch buying regions as one might think. Plus we have relatively safe mail. I'd want to hand my $100,000 watch directly to the Patek general manager in Brazil...and return his daughter when I got my watch back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Agreed, but North America is not as far up the list of luxury watch buying regions as one might think. :lol: Plus we have relatively safe mail. Well, that's true. Anyone who has ever lived in France, e.g., can tell you their postal system is a crying shame...and that's a soi-disant First World country! I'd want to hand my $100,000 watch directly to the Patek general manager in Brazil...and return his daughter when I got my watch back. (I know Hans Stern's family, so that was funny!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willith Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Here's the message I got from the "AD": When we have all the info & pricing, I will send it to you. Take a look at the link for some pictures of a prototype. Blog about the watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Thanks, Willith! Interesting, but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest carlsbadrolex Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 I just threw up a little... That thing is horrible. How dare anyone compare it to a Panerai. If THATS what the Italian military wants, LET THEM HAVE IT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namjah Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 man..that looks horrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Take a look at the link for some pictures of a prototype. Blog about the watch Did you see the skull holding a rose between its teeth??? Per l'onore (for the honour -- OF WHAT?!), LOLOLOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RageRover Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Actually...it is more Panerai then you think! In my eyes, the case looks exactly like this Panerai prototype from the 1980's (minus the crown guard of course). I'd prefer a different dial and I owuld get rid of the gold bezel marker. Other than that, the case IS very Panerai. That doesn't mean I would buy one though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desuetude Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Looks like I'm the only one around here who thinks it's cool. Then again, I like the SAR and the PRS-2. At least I'm consistent in my taste for mil-watches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TTK Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Just another wannabe Panerai......feted and sweated over by anoraks who think that gas mask haversacks, Hitler jugend daggers and swastikas are cool......it's a ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjlamp Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Check out the new watch incursore are talking about at the Xe Flottiglia MAS: http://www.xamas.com/ Too small to threaten Panerai The "grace" that Panerai (well most of them ) watches have, is waaaaaay beyond ,leathery macho designs.If one fails to see the beauty of the design ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new & improved osteopath Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 1) I think it looks pretty cool- silly dial graphics excepted.2) It looks very, very well finished.3) I am not surprised the Italian military is opting for an Italian watch.4) Will likley be way overpriced.-O1) I think it looks pretty cool- silly dial graphics excepted.2) It looks very, very well finished.3) I am not surprised the Italian military is opting for an Italian watch.4) Will likley be way overpriced.-O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 If THATS what the Italian military wants, LET THEM HAVE IT! I am not surprised the Italian military is opting for an Italian watch People, what are you thinking?? That watch has NOTHING to do with present-day Italian Navy, you will never see one on their wrist. It's just a small house targeting a small number of old fashioned fascist-enthusiasts with decent bank accounts. In my eyes, the case looks exactly like this Panerai prototype from the 1980's (minus the crown guard of course). Yes, just OP had the good taste of leaving it at the state of prototype... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 It's just a small house targeting a small number of old fashioned fascist-enthusiasts with decent bank accounts. Harsh! Why fascist-enthusiasts? Not challenging, just genuinely want to know. Is it because of the XaMas in close proximity to the death skull and rose? (The Fascist cult of death, etc) One time I told my father that Panerai was the watch of the Italian "maiale" submariners, who bombed Allied cruisers. He pointed out that his uncle was one such victim of those "subs", and why would I wear such a tribute to those who had killed my own kin? I countered with, "for the same reason you and mum had a Volkswagen in the 70s". You know, Hitler's pet project? A car for "the masses". He grunted, and changed the conversation. P.S.: I wonder if people like Paolo Di Canio would wear this new watch. *g* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Harsh! Why fascist-enthusiasts? Not challenging, just genuinely want to know. Is it because of the XaMas in close proximity to the death skull and rose? (The Fascist cult of death, etc) Yes Victoria, you got it perfectly. I was not especially using 'fascist-enthusiast' in its political meaning (which I suppose is the first to get perceived by American people*), rather in its historical meaning. *yes, yes, I know you are not American I am all but a commie, and I feel the greatest respect to the men of XaMas -- as a matter of fact I even had to defend them on RWG I some time ago, maybe that post got lost in the 6-months RWG I lobothomy. In the Alessiandria rush they managed to sink the biggest amount of enemy Navy tons at the smallest expense of human lives (and I am sorry for your dad's uncle). But that is an entirely different matter from wearing on one's wrist a skull-and-rose-and-slogan watch in 2007. I would be very curious to know how many people who will actually buy that watch would have the balls to behave today like the Alessandria frogmen did. P.S.: I wonder if people like Paolo Di Canio would wear this new watch. *g* "Paolo Di Canio"? Uhm, on your pic I suppose he is a soccer player. And on his gesture yes, I also suppose he would get placed quite right on the political compass Considering that soccer players use to have big money and low taste then yes, I definitely think he may be a target for that XaMas watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolli Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 the price is euro 4.200,-- ( ca. $5.750,-- ) i asked the french seller. rolli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tech Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Its interesting that the US distributor is Jeff and Val Meyer, the owners of Strapmasters straps.... Strapmasters They used to have the contract with the Fabrizio Ciampi Brelli factory to make their Decimas Logo straps (awesome straps) with the Skull buckle logo (now pictured on the watch)...they are one of the few folks to have a permission to use that logo... Anyway, they no longer make the Decimas Xmas straps (unfortunately) and supposedly they were going to come out with something better...hence, the good looking strap on that fugly watch. BTW, Elliot now has the contract with Fabrizio to make his PAV straps and others in the Brelli factory. Awesome straps too... Anyway, I'd be interested in that strap....but not that fugly watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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