Lollipop Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 And talking intellectual property infringement in a rep forum is laughable to me. Also, what about the guy at the 'P' site always selling so call NOS straps known as Dirk. Are those real Dirk's..? Elliot is not the only guy doing it. The problem for me with Elliot is that he's using Dirk's name to scam newbies and other people who thinks they're buying the real Dirk, just like that NOS guy. It's like people selling fake Viagra, fake brake pads, fake condoms, fake baby milk, even fake aircraft parts! At best you'll lose your money, worse you'll lose your life. I expect Elliot of TC to be a reputable person and by trademarking Dirk's name without permission he's saying to the world he's clearly not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 It's like people selling fake Viagra, fake brake pads, fake condoms, fake baby milk, even fake aircraft parts! And Fake Watches? Seriously, look around. See those walls? They're glass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swdivad Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Sounds like you know the man in person. How many sugar does he take with his coffee..? Or does he drink coffee at all..? How did he start his strap business..? Who makes his straps..? And I don't think he would like to have his name in anyway or form in assciated with our rep community here. Jumping on bandwagon is easy. No, I don't know him personally, but from the few posts and responses that I have read in the past, he (and his product) seems respected by likewise respectable people. As for jumping on the bandwagon... I'm actually jumping off... I stayed neutral and continued to purchase from E, despite the infamous letter I received from him and the negative sentiments from respected members here... After the unfortunate post by E about where to purchase a veni strap, my outlook on the man changed... But I left it there after posting my disappointment. I guess you could say this would be the final straw for me... OK, I changed my mind, and my opinion... I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, especially regarding the circumstances. There are many other strap dealers to buy from, and I have. My business will go to them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanerich Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 And Fake Watches? Seriously, look around. See those walls? They're glass. It is true that buying reps is morally ambiguous to begin with . . . but I think most of us believe that selling reps as reps and selling reps as genuines are not the same thing. I think it's clear from Eliott's own statements and acts that in selling his "TC Dirks" he fully intends for people to think his Dirks are the genuine article, and he is absolutely not selling them as replicas, in homage to Dirk or whatever. And since most members seem to agree that they can live with repping while the passing off as gen constitutes fraud (and I'm not saying that's a legally defensible position per se, it's just how people clearly feel), it's not surprising that a distinction can be made by members of this forum. But I absolutely agree that this forum is a slightly awkward place to take the moral high ground when it comes to IP issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 And Fake Watches? Seriously, look around. See those walls? They're glass. Theres a difference between fake watches and the stuff he named! fake viagra, fake brake pads, fake condoms, fake baby milk, even fake aircraft parts! all that stuff can kill ppl, fake watches dont harm nobody! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tutima Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Well, most of us have heard of Dirk straps, named after the fine gentleman who makes them Dirk Grandry. He never thought to trademark his own name for the straps he made. Well, someone else did and is using him name now to market his own line of crap, I mean straps: Link to Paneristi How low do you have to be to take another man's name and use it to make money under false pretenses? Check the first generation Dirk straps that has the OP logo on them. I wonder why no one ever said anything about them. He made his straps famuous by copying the original Panerai straps down to the logo buckle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 And I thought Dirk Straps was a 70s porn star! JTB Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 I am with Davidws on this one. Trying to buy Veni Strap was the final straw. And with all the analogies about reps and what he is doing, IMHO, people are losing the bigger picture. He and his forum have gone after and threatened folks on this forum and RWG. Get a clue. If you are buying from him, you are doing so for your own selfish reasons. Good luck to those who do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 If you are buying from him, you are doing so for your own selfish reasons. Good luck to those who do! Amen. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 I am with Davidws on this one. Trying to buy Veni Strap was the final straw. And with all the analogies about reps and what he is doing, IMHO, people are losing the bigger picture. He and his forum have gone after and threatened folks on this forum and RWG. Get a clue. If you are buying from him, you are doing so for your own selfish reasons. Good luck to those who do! Ditto to Kenberg's reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kanerich Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Theres a difference between fake watches and the stuff he named! all that stuff can kill ppl, fake watches dont harm nobody! I beg to differ, the bezel insert fell off my abay YM while I was on a date, totally cost me getting laid that night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 I beg to differ, the bezel insert fell off my abay YM while I was on a date, totally cost me getting laid that night. If I was you I would definately sue Paul for this... or maybe ask him to send you a pretty Asian girl intead Sorry If I offended you but your reply is PRICELESS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craytonic Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 And Fake Watches? Seriously, look around. See those walls? They're glass. Issue not that it is fake dirk strap. Issue is that people buy it thinking it is a real dirk strap. We know our reps are fake. It isn't like buying a rep on the board. It is like selling a rep on ebay as the real deal. COMPLETELY different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanerich Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 If I was you I would definately sue Paul for this... or maybe ask him to send you a pretty Asian girl intead Sorry If I offended you but your reply is PRICELESS I asked him for the Asian girl but he wouldn't give me the standard 10% western union discount, so I got him to send me two replacement bezel inserts for free instead. In retrospect that was probably the wrong call. By the way, I'm not dissing abay . . . he really did send me two free replacement bezel inserts. Unfortunately, shaking my new and improved YM at women and screaming "SEE, THAT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE, NOW LET'S F***!" doesn't seem to be impressing them so I still claim harm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 I asked him for the Asian girl but he wouldn't give me the standard 10% western union discount, so I got him to send me two replacement bezel inserts for free instead. In retrospect that was probably the wrong call. By the way, I'm not dissing abay . . . he really did send me two free replacement bezel inserts. Unfortunately, shaking my new and improved YM at women and screaming "SEE, THAT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE, NOW LET'S F***!" doesn't seem to be impressing them so I still claim harm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craytonic Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 "TC owns the ™ of "Dirk Straps" and we own the url www.dirkstraps.com " Elliot @ rwi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 all that stuff can kill ppl, fake watches dont harm nobody! Yeah, but to keep on topic, fake fake straps are not going to hurt either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighDef Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 I beg to differ, the bezel insert fell off my abay YM while I was on a date, totally cost me getting laid that night. Talking about rep owners go through, just for the love of reps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 kanerich- Girls come and go. A good bezel insert (never mind two) is hard to come by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 kanerich- Girls come and go. A good bezel insert (never mind two) is hard to come by. And even harder to cum in.......................oops........................bye Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Ken- I'm shocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Well its 11.30pm here, I better get to bed before I really embarass myself Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonthebhoy Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Ken- I'm shocked. Your shocked? I'm traumatized! JTB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanerich Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Your shocked? I'm traumatized! JTB OK, Kenberg settled that issue. Let it never be said again that fake watches (or at least moderators of related forums) never caused anyone harm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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