perry563 Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 I have read conflicting opinions on this question. I have a MBW 1680 and a MBW great white 1665. I am also looking to buy a double red SD (MBW). I have a Clarke superdome on my great white. I have a CLARKE acrylic crystal (forget the type) on my 1680. Can someone tell me and if they can posts pictures of exactly what crystal came with the original gen versions of these watches? I was told by one person that the superdome is completely wrong wlile someone else told me that for a very short time the great white came from the factory with a superdome. What do the experts think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosnik Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 The correct crystal for 1665 is T39. Two types was present : 1-Flat ( called flat but it's hemispherical) 2-Superdome The chose is only by budget and feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlydog Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 I have heard from Stephane that the flat T39 is correct for the Great White. The correct crystal for 1665 is T39. Two types was present : 1-Flat ( called flat but it's emisferical) 2-Superdome The chose is only by budget and feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takashi Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 (edited) Yes, based on reference on doubleredseadweller, it really depends on which time period you are going to create your modded vintage Rollie. I will go for flat T39 for DRSD too. Edited January 30, 2008 by takashi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 T 127 goes on the 1680. Clarks was actually selling some gen 127's a while back- maybe like $25 each. I picked up a spare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 I have heard from Stephane the the flat T39 is correct for the Great White. Regarding 1665 only... What I said is what I heard from a member here @ RWG. Flat is correct for a Great White. The member who is advicing me has 100 times more knowledge than me about vintage Rolies (and watches in general probably). Please look at my signature and follow the Trilogy thread for more details. My Single red is having a genuine T39 Super Dome (costs a little fortune) The Double red is carrying a Clark Super Dome (good enough in my opinion and much cheaper than a genuine) The Great White, received a genuine T39 Flat (affordable and beautifull). The GW is my favourite as it is the only one that I could afford in real life after saving hard. The Red ones are just a dream... Cheers Stephane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perry563 Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 I have a Clarke superdome on my GW 1665 is that a total impossibility in terms of how any GEN looked from the factory? If I put a T39 flat on a double red SD is that an impossibility based upon how any gen DRSD looked from the factory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 If Rolex serviced your vintage Seadweller (GW or DRSD) today, it would leave with a flat T39. As far as I know, the DRSD was the only Seadweller that originally left the factory (the Swiss one) fitted with a superdome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Does anybody know where to get a Gen Flat 39 Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 I have a Clarke superdome on my GW 1665 is that a total impossibility in terms of how any GEN looked from the factory? If I put a T39 flat on a double red SD is that an impossibility based upon how any gen DRSD looked from the factory? I think what Freddy says is 100% correct. Great White should be FLAT T39. I would add that there are NO fixed rules though. Rolex and watchmakers are probably using stock parts. What they have handy, they will put. So, a Great White with a super dome might happen too, if a watchmaker had to replace a crystal and only had a super dome.. Same possible stories with date wheels too, case backs, ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perry563 Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Who sells a good replacement FLAT T39? I dont see them sold by CLARKE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega Fan Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Let me breathe life in this thread with a noob question... how do I replace the glass? is there some tutorial available? will it just pop out or does it have some sort of a trick to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 No superdome for a great white SD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Let me breathe life in this thread with a noob question... how do I replace the glass? is there some tutorial available? will it just pop out or does it have some sort of a trick to it? First you must pop up the Bezel, after that there is a retaining Ring that hold the Crystal in place.... Took a small knife or whatever and try to pull the Ring up.. Go around the retaining ring by pulling up... when the ring comes loose, you can easily take the glass off.... After installing the new glass you must prees the Retaining Ring back in place.... Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega Fan Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 (edited) First you must pop up the Bezel, after that there is a retaining Ring that hold the Crystal in place.... Took a small knife or whatever and try to pull the Ring up.. Go around the retaining ring by pulling up... when the ring comes loose, you can easily take the glass off.... After installing the new glass you must prees the Retaining Ring back in place.... Hope this helps Im sure it will thanks I got me this baby and might play with the crystals... http://repgeek.com/showthread.php?t=30771 Edited August 21, 2008 by Omega Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Panther Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Is there supposed to be a gasket or anything betwen the crystal and case? Is the crystal supposed to be glued in? I am trying to waterproof my mbk. My gen tube and crown arrive next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 There is some overlap with the Superdome 39; some of the early production 1665 whites came with the Superdome 39; later models towards the end of the reference (prior to the 16660) came with the 'flat'. There is also a standard domed 39 which is slotted between the Superdome and flat as well. 1680 comes with a Cyclope 127; there are a few different flavors of these as well. The early iterations came with a 45 degree angle at the top edge of the crystal whereas the later versions had a 90 degree angle with bevel. FWIW- 5512/5513/5514 came with the T-19, as did Tudor 7928's, 7016, etc. etc. Tudor 9411's came with the Cyclope 125 Etcetera, etc. Acrylic crystals press right to the lip of the case via friction; no gaskets, etc. The crystal retaining ring then adds external pressure to the crystal to help seal the case; in some instances, there is an additional rubber gasket that fits under the retaining ring, but this gasket is not applicable to all models (even within the same ref in some cases). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Panther Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Thank you Ubi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Panther Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 BTW its the 1665 mbk I have. Hoping my next project will the 1680 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Let me breathe life in this thread with a noob question... how do I replace the glass? is there some tutorial available? will it just pop out or does it have some sort of a trick to it? Here is a pictorial that illustrates the process of removing your crystal. It may be a helpful visual aid to Tribal's instructions. Crystal replacement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milsub5517 Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 there are some cheap crystal presses on feeBay: 20$ shipped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stac Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 OK...now I'm really confused Simply put, I want to replace the crystal on my MBW DRSP (from Paso) I'm going to order a 'Vintage" SD (white) from Paul for the dial and swap out the DR dial. The original crystal has a pretty good scratch and has to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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