bertieng Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Take a look at the finish and how they imitate the folding links. It is completely new design over the previous rivet bands. http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLEX-7206-RIVETED-BRA...1QQcmdZViewItem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Wow... gimme TWO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 It looks like a gen & the seller identifies it as such THIS IS 100% GENUINE ROLEX WATCH BRACELET If it were an aftermarket/fake, he would have several to sell & we would be seeing them available from some of our collectors. But if it is a fake, count me in for a couple also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surpur Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 It looks like a gen & the seller identifies it as such If it were an aftermarket/fake, he would have several to sell & we would be seeing them available from some of our collectors. But if it is a fake, count me in for a couple also. I think so too - this looks real and it would be available if there were reps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eunomians Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Come on guys, it's fake. Look at all the other stuff he's selling. I'm getting tired of these chinese eBay sellers hawking supposedly genuine vintage Rolex items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 you have to admit it's a nice Fake though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiparks Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 assuming that what is in the picture is what you'll find when you open the envelope..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 I hope it is fake. It's just what my 1665 DRSD needs. Anybody know the source? Can we buy outside the bay? Don't want to compete with fellow members and push the price up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 He's also got a 7836 folded non-riveted. MAN I could use 3 of those. If we don't drive the prices up between ourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surpur Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Come on guys, it's fake. Look at all the other stuff he's selling. I'm getting tired of these chinese eBay sellers hawking supposedly genuine vintage Rolex items. Did you see the second one he is selling? That clasp is real and you can see the folded bracelet. Hong Kong was always flooded with luxury items and I am not surprised that NOS stuff is popping up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Come on guys, it's fake. Look at all the other stuff he's selling. I'm getting tired of these chinese eBay sellers hawking supposedly genuine vintage Rolex items. Quite Euno. I mean there's no way in hell that is gen. Look at the stamping, the condition. It's not even NOS it's more like SORFPLOS. Of course he says it's gen, who can prove otherwise? However before you all wet your pants at the thought of a nice 1:1 vintage bracelet, I'll bet this is not available on the open rep market, as it is clearly a big money spinner for the makers/dealers. I'll bet they can make $350-500+ on these 'replacement' bracelets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Did you see the second one he is selling? That clasp is real and you can see the folded bracelet. Hong Kong was always flooded with luxury items and I am not surprised that NOS stuff is popping up there. True, and I know Andy has some great NOS bits and pieces. But HK is also flooded with other items in this market, so one must view everything with suspicion. Even here in London, where I can pick up a Mk II 1665 or NOS straight-secs 1655 without breaking sweat in terms of sourcing, these bracelets are hard to come by, so I'm not buying that HK is awash with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Too good to be true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmg Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 I saw this too on the bay and thought it was suspect, NOS is too good to be true -I think he had another one for sale not long ago. Nonetheless, it looks good and I'd jump on one if the price is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertieng Posted June 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 If you have been tracing very carefully on this seller in the past, he actually had 4-5 7836 bracelets for sale in brand new conditions, which have been proved fake, no doubt. I trust ome members here actually pull the trigger, and got the bracelet. This time the quality of the 7206 has been further improved, it is not easy for any causal Rolex buyers to spot it as fake. The facts are: 1. Condition of the bracelet is simply far too good for any real 7206 on the market considering the vintage of this model. Not even Rolex will have any NOS available. 2. Look at the stamping of "58" on the endlinks. 3. Look at the shape of the rivert pins - flat vs round in gen. 4. The date stamping on the clasp. 5. The biggest giveaway is the cornet stamping on the clasp. I think they use the same stamping mold as for the 7836. Still, I must say this is a master piece of fake. They really take the pain in copying the folding links as almost same as those in the gen. And they have learned the lesson of not making the back of the folding links recessed as they did in the 7836. So, they really are listening to the customers to upgrade their products. Yes, if the price is not ridiculous, it is no harm to get one for our vintage Rollies. But still not too sure about the feel of the band as often fakes are always full of sharp edges and extremely tight links - the silky flow feeling of a gen. bracelet never exist. Then, I may be just comparing diamond with glass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Upon closer inspection of the number stamping, I have been convinced that the bracelet is probably a fake. With that in mind, it will be interesting to see how high the bidding goes. Anything beyond $200 for a fake bracelet, even a very good fake, is beyond reason as far as I am concerned. But it does say 'Rolex', so we shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docblackrock Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Well as I thought, the last two he sold went for approx. $500. Nice little money-spinner even for a 1:1 reverse-engineered copy. At least NDT is honest about ripping you off, no claims of "genuine" cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 I emailed the seller this morning asking if he had any documentation to verify the bracelet as 'genuine Rolex'. His response -- 'NO'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 to good to be true. Maybe the Pic is from a gen one. You don't know what he will ship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir-Lancelot Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 I hope one of our dealers can get these. They look great. I dont see me spending more than $200 tho. $100 would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmg Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Well as I thought, the last two he sold went for approx. $500. Nice little money-spinner even for a 1:1 reverse-engineered copy. At least NDT is honest about ripping you off, no claims of "genuine" cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Well he offered me an off board Buy-It-Now of $250 each.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir-Lancelot Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Well he offered me an off board Buy-It-Now of $250 each.... That's not a bad price. Try to haggle with him to $200. Group buy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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