Stephane Posted July 20, 2008 Report Posted July 20, 2008 Well for the double cash you can get a full watch from here: http://www.subgmt.com/en/vintage_rolex.php Can't believe these prices Is there anybody buying a dial only ?
dieselpower Posted July 20, 2008 Report Posted July 20, 2008 I know James Dowling. You can rest assured this is the genuine article, you can also rest assured he is laughing all the way to the bank!
By-Tor Posted July 20, 2008 Report Posted July 20, 2008 15K for a stinkin' dial! Puh-leeze... the geekiness of some (apparently very rich) people disgusts me. PS: Here we have a great dial for MBW franken-builders. Anyone?
Ztech Posted July 20, 2008 Report Posted July 20, 2008 Proof that there are some with more money than sense.
Pugwash Posted July 20, 2008 Report Posted July 20, 2008 Proof that there are some with more money than sense. I'm not so sure. What price would you call reasonable? Anything over $20 and someone, somewhere will think you're insane. I get annoyed by anyone calling people who spend vast amounts of money on collectables stupid, because we're all in that group. I bet you that at least three in four people, if they had approaching limitless wealth, would consider spending over $10k on a watch easy.
Stephane Posted July 20, 2008 Report Posted July 20, 2008 ...I bet you that at least three in four people, if they had approaching limitless wealth, would consider spending over $10k on a watch easy... On a watch! Why not? But on a dial ? That dial in any case will only be a dial, not a 100% full original watch.
HauteHippie Posted July 20, 2008 Report Posted July 20, 2008 15K for a stinkin' dial! Puh-leeze... the geekiness of some (apparently very rich) people disgusts me. Hmm, it "disgusts" you? Really? What if the person spending $14k on a watch dial is also donating $14M to charities.... Would you still be disgusted? I guess I'm with Pug on this one. I don't understand contempt for success, especially as a knee jerk reaction.
JoJo35 Posted July 20, 2008 Author Report Posted July 20, 2008 Back to the topic, insane or not, it's only money. Now... about 16 minutes to sniper fire
Dutchy Posted July 20, 2008 Report Posted July 20, 2008 $18,100! Man that was exciting. I refreshed the page a couple times and in the last ten seconds, BAM, from 14k to 18k. Free rush
By-Tor Posted July 20, 2008 Report Posted July 20, 2008 Hmm, it "disgusts" you? Really? What if the person spending $14k on a watch dial is also donating $14M to charities.... Would you still be disgusted? I guess I'm with Pug on this one. I don't understand contempt for success, especially as a knee jerk reaction. Hmm, my whole reply was posted TIC (tongue-in-cheek). Maybe that didn't come through very well (despite the smiley in the end). That's the Internet for you.
Dani Posted July 20, 2008 Report Posted July 20, 2008 I don't think its wrong for anyone to buy this dail for 18k, hey you have the $$ then why not?? But i do feel its stupid but that is my own opinion and i don't expect other to share it but i now their is many that does
Pugwash Posted July 20, 2008 Report Posted July 20, 2008 That dial in any case will only be a dial, not a 100% full original watch. If you own a rare watch with a trashed dial, that's what it'll cost you to replace your dial.
freddy333 Posted July 20, 2008 Report Posted July 20, 2008 I get annoyed by anyone calling people who spend vast amounts of money on collectables stupid, because we're all in that group. I bet you that at least three in four people, if they had approaching limitless wealth, would consider spending over $10k on a watch easy. Agreed.
Dizzy Posted July 20, 2008 Report Posted July 20, 2008 i agree with pug.. if you have the rest of the watch and its all 100% orig but the dial was damaged.., then this is what you need. I guess it depends on your bank account wether or not its justifiable. dizz
geo1nah2a Posted July 20, 2008 Report Posted July 20, 2008 The final price of the dial, if it is to be used for a franken-watch, is insane. The final price of the dial, if it is to be used for restoring a genuine 1665, is sane: if the case is in good condition the watch will appreciate more in value than the cost of this dial.
stilty Posted July 21, 2008 Report Posted July 21, 2008 Definitely buying the "seller", as well as the dial. If anyone else were to list that dial, what do you think they would get for it? $500? $1000? The fact that James is selling it drove the price up. And I agree, if this is going into a restoration and the buyer had a mint case, with the original movement where the COSC cert number matched the case serial, and it was documented at Rolex that is was sold with a RED dial! If the buyer has all those ducks in a row, then it would be worth a lot more money as the complete package.
Guest carlsbadrolex Posted July 21, 2008 Report Posted July 21, 2008 Just to own a watch (or part of a watch) that comes from THIS collection is something special.
freddy333 Posted July 21, 2008 Report Posted July 21, 2008 Most likely, the dial was purchased for the same reason all Double-Red dials get purchased -- to transform a standard gen GW 1665 into a far more valuable Double-Red. And considering that a Double-Red went for $200,000 in the April Antiquorum auction, a mere 20 grand for a gen dial with James Dowling's credentials behind it, seems like a steal to me.
Stephane Posted July 21, 2008 Report Posted July 21, 2008 If you own a rare watch with a trashed dial, that's what it'll cost you to replace your dial. Agreed. But still, if I owned such a watch, believe me I wouldn't let the dial be damaged
StormTooper4 Posted July 21, 2008 Report Posted July 21, 2008 Most likely, the dial was purchased for the same reason all Double-Red dials get purchased -- to transform a standard gen GW 1665 into a far more valuable Double-Red. And considering that a Double-Red went for $200,000 in the April Antiquorum auction, a mere 20 grand for a gen dial with James Dowling's credentials behind it, seems like a steal to me. Freddy I do see your point, but F*%Kmy old boots 18000$ is one hell of a lot of cash for a dial. But if you can ramp up the price of GW to the 200K MARK Then i guess its a wise investment ST$
stilty Posted July 21, 2008 Report Posted July 21, 2008 Most likely, the dial was purchased for the same reason all Double-Red dials get purchased -- to transform a standard gen GW 1665 into a far more valuable Double-Red. And considering that a Double-Red went for $200,000 in the April Antiquorum auction, a mere 20 grand for a gen dial with James Dowling's credentials behind it, seems like a steal to me. Just curious. Wouldn't Rolex have records of what dial was installed with the case and COSC number? If someone was to install the dial on a GW, it still wouldn't be worth $200K if the watch was documented as a GW. Everything would have to match. Case #, COSC number, and dial code. But maybe I'm wrong. My guess is, someone has a DR, maybe they bought it damaged, waterlogged, etc. To make any sense of spending that kind of cash, they must have all the other parts of the puzzle. To make it worth buying that dial, they have a matching case and COSC, and all the rolex paperwork to back it up. Maybe it was a DOA and waterlogged watch to start. Salvage the case, salvage the mainplate and rebuild the movement, all you need is the dial to match the records and you now have a minty, completely original DRSD. If one can match the "original" Rolex records, then you have one very valuable watch.
Pugwash Posted July 21, 2008 Report Posted July 21, 2008 Just curious. Wouldn't Rolex have records of what dial was installed with the case and COSC number? If someone was to install the dial on a GW, it still wouldn't be worth $200K if the watch was documented as a GW. Everything would have to match. Case #, COSC number, and dial code. But maybe I'm wrong. I thought Rolex no longer authenticated watches. I too could be wrong.
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