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5-6 pieces sample order will leave China on Wednesday double side AR coated with the latest colorless AR. They will be on my hands in around 3-4 days after that So there will be some lucky guys that will get the samples. Others have to wait for the run... I am mostly waiting for my IWC BP crystal that is getting AR treatment at the same time!

Right this is a blue peter moment (Please ecuse the crappy iphone pics) Thanks to Rolojack i can show you all how to make a vintage silver flat 3 open 6&9 DWO I took a screen shot of his image in the DWO thread converted it to black and white in word and resized it. This needs nothing more than A decent inkjet printer Some self adhesive clear lables your old metal DWOs a bit of scotch bright a sharp craft knife (please get help from grown ups when cutting) Nail varnish remover or isopopenol alcohol A sunday morning with out the shakes Right First get all your old DWOs that are made of metal and a couple of date wheels for 2836/46 and chuck them in alcohol or nail varnish remover and remove all the old printing (this will save microns of clearance space) Once it is all clean take your scotch brite and brush the overlay blank you should end up with some thing like this Now we cut out one of our preprinted clear adhesive over lays and stick it as central as you can to the blank The get an adult to cut away the excess and you will be let with what we want a brushed silver flat 3, open 6&9 overlay now you may have dont it already but remove all the printing and ink from the date wheel And fit it to your movement Next we need some thing to attach the DWO to the DW, i like using clear nail varnish as it sets slowly and can be revoved easily, Dial dots are also good but think about clearance if you go this route Tiny dabs are all you need, Now add the DWO over the top lining the center of one number with the stem Fit you dial and check the positioning of all numbers over (wind the watch forwards and get the date to change as you got through 12am rather t6han jjust click forward in the date set position) there will be slight variation Adjust if nesesary and try again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again untill you are happy two slightly better pictures As we can see here the 20s need to move over to the right a touch, not sure if roloJack could do that??? as the rest are good The printing is better than the pictures actualy show and as good as my MBW DWO in my great white but not as perfect as my gen (The one above was a lower print quality than the one under the rail dial) I think we are moving in the right direction I think if i vectorised the image it would be better, can some one here do that? Many thanks to Rolojack for creating the image in the first place (let me know if you want a few of these) Do not all PM me asking me to make you one as i only have 3 blanks. Platinum members for a small donation to the postage can have the stickers for free, but it would be better if it was vectorised and prfesionaly printed. Thank you for reading and now your thoughts please as to the positioning, font size, and boldness

We almost always buy watches online and sometimes upon receiving the watch you realize it is too big for your wrist or too small. Knowing the diameter works well enough, but we all have different wrists of different shapes, so I've been thinking of a more (pseudo) scientific way to tell if the watch you are buying will fit your wrist. This is what I've been thinking about: j=a/b a = your wrist perimeter b = your wrist width j = your wrist constant k=(x+((y-x)/2))/2 x = watch diameter y = watch width including the lugs k = your watch constant Q=j/k 0.12<Q<0.15 - the watch is right for you Q<0.12 - the watch is too large for your wrist Q>0.15 - the watch is too small for your wrist I've tried this formula with a few watches I have and it seems to work. Can you please help me verify this (if you are interested of course). Man... I have too much free time on my hands

Hey fellow sub lovers, as you may know, I really like the 16610.....like many of you, I came here looking for the best sub....started with chinese wok sub from a member here, then a silix special (that was special), then some timeshops specials, went through several noob subs, then wm9 v1, v2, v3 and now TC sub. Bought a Sean case but decided it was a bit harder to assemble given it comes with no movement ring, TC strap needs working to get on, etc. I settled on the TC case which is what these 2 subs use. They both have a v3 strap which has an excellent SEL fit. The invicta is an 8926 with a few mods. It is my beater since I cant bear to wear my 16610s as beaters. In case you want to compare rep versus gen....there are a few differences here Black sub has gen AR cyclops, gen insert, gen crown Green sub is all rep. Insert was from BK, it is not a wm9 one or the TC one, but something BK had lying around and he gave it to me. I used a watchmaterial pearl on there (one of the nicer ones from the batches). I have to comment that the crowns are real similar. Does a gen one make a difference ? You decide. The crystals are real similar. I think the TC crystal's date magnifies too much and distorts. Those of you with a TC sub, check to see if your cyclops magnifies more than mine. I removed the cyclops and attached a different one on there. I think the cyclops came off a noob sub. I must admit the crystal edges are real similar and I cant tell a difference in clarity really. I did use a BK datewheel overlay. TC dwo is nice, has better font and print but the whole thing is printed a tad to the left so depending on how you center it, either all numbers are a tad left justified or some center and some are way too far left, etc. This is on both v1 and v2. These subs just were at BKs where he pressure tested them for me. My collection is complete and this officially marks the completion of my quest for a good sub. I am going to try and not let the cyclops mag on the green sub bother me...LOL. 　 These are just some pics of the invicta....good little watch for like $75

You can buy a21j movements that are Swiss made as well

Well my original post was about what I consider the futility of the luxury brands in employing agents to assist customs in searching out and destroying replicas. The debate has now widened into something more interesting, but although I can see many different viewpoints, I have to say nothing here has changed my original stance. I guess you'd find all ends of the spectrum on these pages, just as you would in any walk of life. In the world of gens, there will be people who buy them having spent years pursuing the idea, having researched the market thoroughly, having learned a great deal about the watchmakers art, about what separates one brand or one model from another. At the other end of the scale will be the chinless wonder who has the watch bought for him by a rich daddy, simply to mark his progeny out as a 'have' rather than a 'have not'. He will probably know less about the mechanical marvel strapped around his wrist than he knows about what daddy does for a living, and will care even less than that. The first rep I ever saw was in the early seventies, (yes, of course it was a Rolex!), and in the intervening years, the industry has become much larger, more expert, and more accessible, in spite of, (and maybe even because of), the efforts of the Swiss watch industry. All my instincts lead me to believe that the reason they pursue the rep industry so visibly is to disassociate themselves with the 'tat' that we all buy, to maintain the snob value. As regards the outsourcing of components, I think sometimes the only part that is actually made in Switzerland is the dial. That's why it says so at the bottom

I'm not certain that thte 80% rule has gone into effect. There was quite a bit of push back from some of the brands when this was proposed. I read the regulations a few months ago, but there is some vagueness to it. Especially as to what the 80% would entail. lots of price, ratios, adding up costs and plugging them into a formula to come up with the magic number. It looks to me liike some compamies could ,if they wanted, price their Chinese/foreign made components very cheap, and their Swiss parts and labor very high and get a lot more Chinese or foreign made parts into a watch and still make the 50% ratio. Possibly much more difficult if the ratio went to 80%

Sitting here watching the storm, still puffy winds, dropping to 20 and gusting to 110mph. Grateful the power is on, digging the Flat Three. PS: nice T-O-G Freddy. You got every detail right.

Just a quick shot of my Tudor family Cheers/Milgauss

Thanks for the comments!! Probably will take another 2 weeks before I receive it.. Watch is now on it's way to an EU country to be shipped from there to me. But as promised I will definitely write a review. Very excited to receive this watch, hard to stay patient since this is only my 2nd rep watch..

I'd like to make a quick point - I owned a gen 16610lv around two years ago. I paid £4075 from an AD and for about a week was delighted until it kind of hit home that I'd bought a stainless steel watch that actually had a crooked cyclops. The watch went back and I was given a replacement by the dealer. I never felt the same about the watch and eventually sold it on. I get the fact that Rolexes are a luxury item etc, but for me still mass produced and severely overpriced. A pal of mine has a GMT 2 that was purchased brand new for around half the price of my sub around 2003. I will never buy gen again, for me it borders on pointless when I can get a TC or BK for next to nothing in comparison.

You just made my day Sunny

All of the following were fitted to the 6263 by Rolex - 7205 (riveted) with 71 ends 7835 (folded link) with either 271 or 371 ends 78350 (solid link) with 571 ends Early versions would have had rivets, mid versions folded links & the final versions solid link. Today, if Rolex replaced a bracelet on a 6263, it would be fitted with the 78350. Any of these would be suitable. As for end links other than those indicated above, it is hit-or-miss since only those listed above were made to fit the 62xx Daytona case. I have 7835s with 357 ends on all of my 62xx Daytonas &, while they do not fit perfectly, they look & feel fine to me.

that's great news, thanks buddy

just got a "new" one

I think the CGs in the Antiquorum link above got that way from polishing. They are not the same as the (squarish) CGs that early 5512s came with. They may exist, but I have never seen a (known gen) 5513 with CGs like this

Was q thick domestos bleach used neat. Was more like a gel than a liquid Sent from my HTC Desire S

New tudor friends finished.

updated my snowflake with an oyster bracelet and a mod on the crown..what do you guys think? Pardon the dust and fingerprints..

Here is my Snowy on a few different 'looks'..............

Hi guys! Today I’ll be reviewing the Omega Planet Ocean 42mm Ultimate with the Orange Bezel. I want to let everyone know that if you haven't read it yet, another RWG member, Wetwork, wrote an extremely thorough and informative review on the Planet Ocean. It goes much farther in depth than this review so if you are in the market for one of these watches, do yourself a favor and go read his review as well. Background: Omega is my favorite watch brand. Maybe James Bond had a little to do with it, but I also love the design of a lot of their models. I discovered how much I like the Planet Ocean (PO) during a visit to an Omega Authorized Dealer (AD). I was actually there looking at a Seamaster Professional, and the bright orange bezel of the PO caught my eye. I tried it on and that was it - I was in love. The Dealer: I have purchased 3 watches from Andrew at Trusty Time. He is an outstanding dealer with exceptional customer service. This is actually the second PO I received from Andrew. The first one had an issue with the stem where it wasn't engaging the movement correctly. I emailed him the day I received it and informed him about the problem. He immediately asked me to send it back and told me he would replace it with a new one. This is the new replacement His communication is top-notch. He replies to emails within hours, and most of the time within minutes. He is courteous and helpful, and I highly recommend buying from him. I will be writing another review for him in his section of this forum later today. Please check it out if you plan to purchase from him. Here is the link to the watch I purchased: http://www.yourtrust...roducts_id=7064 This is the detailed description of the watch copied from the website: OMG0155 - Planet Ocean 42 Org Bez SS/SS Blk Swiss2824 Ult Made with a Genuine Watch Completely Dissected.... 1 Full Year in the making......Finally ..The Ulitimate Best 42mm 1 : 1 Planet Ocean... Correct Omega Logo.. No Happy Feet, Purple Tone AR Coating ..Same Tone as Genuine . MOVEMENT: Nickle Plated Swiss Eta 2824-2 Automatic movement, 28800bph, 25J, Insginia Rotor Option Avail : Asian 2824-2 25J, 28800bph (Gold Movt Only).. Less USD 50 CASE DIAMETER: 42mm - With Correct 20mm Lug Width THICKNESS: 14.5mm DIAL COLOR: Black Dial with Great Lumed Stick Markers, White 6/9/12 Numeral Markers, Correct Omega Logo - No Happy Feet CASE MATERIAL: Solid Stainless Steel 316L, Correct HE postion BRACELET: Brushed SS Bracelet With Diver's extension, Correct Planet Ocean Engraving on Clasp FRONT GLASS: Sapphire crystal Correct Purple Tone AR coating as Per Genuine BACK GLASS: Solid Case Caseback With Insignia Logo and Anticounterfeit Print, Serial Numbers (818668988) BEZEL: Orange Uni directional Rotating Diver Bezel HACK MOVEMENT: Yes CLASP TYPE: Double Deployant Folding Clasp/Buckle DATE INDICATOR: At 3:00 position OTHER REMARKS: Water Resistant Correct HE Valve Placement Serial Numbers (8188668988) engraved Back of Lugs near 7.00 position Ordering/Shipping: My original broken watch was delivered back to Andrew on Feb 2nd. I received a confirmation email the same day it was received, along with a photo of the watch. I received QC photos for the replacement watch on Feb 4th. The watch was shipped on Feb 6th and arrived here on Feb 10th. Overall, it was very fast processing time from China to the US. As usual, the watch came extremely well packaged. It was wrapped in a thin plastic sheet, then folded up in a lot of bubble wrap and placed inside a thick Styrofoam box. The Styrofoam box was shipped in a standard cardboard box. You could throw this package against a brick wall and the watch would be fine. First Impression: As soon as I saw the watch in my hand I couldn't help but smile. In my opinion, the PO is one of the most beautiful watches around and this rep really is beautiful. The look and feel of this watch is outstanding. I would have thought this was a gen watch if I didn't know any better. I literally can't stop staring at it. The fit-and-finish of this watch is way better than website photos or QC pictures could represent. Really, these photos here don't quite do it justice. The watch has a good weight and a very solid feel to it. The case has a mix of brushed and polished surfaces which looks really nice. I know it's a matter of personal preference, but I like the orange bezel a lot. It really pops against the purple/blue tint if the AR. Here are some photos: Further Investigation: The Crown - Like I said earlier, the first one of these I purchased had a serious issue with the crown and the stem not engaging the movement correctly. This one works perfectly. Also, the first one had a grinding feel when I unscrewed the crown, but this one screws in and out silky smooth. Manually winding the watch (in the first position) is smooth with a nice resistance to it. Setting the date (with the second position) was also very nice. The hands also operate very smoothly and without any slop when adjusting the time (at the third position). There is a Helium escape valve on the opposite side of the case. I tried to turn it, but it seems fixed in it's position. I think it may be sealed to keep the water resistance of the watch. The Face - I'll let the pictures speak for themselves, but it's very nice. The background is a matte black and all the numbers and hour markers look nice and sharp against it. I've read that some people have issues with the Omega logo being too close to the word "Omega". It looks perfectly positioned on the one I got. The numbers in the date window center up very nicely. The watch has a sapphire crystal and a really nice looking AR coating. It has a nice purple/blue color that I've tried to capture in the picture below. The Lume - The lume on this watch sucks. The good thing is that lume is not that important to me. I know that most people feel differently so if you're one of them, the first mod you should make is probably be the lume. I held the watch up to a bright light for a full minute, but couldn't get a good picture in a dimly lit room. I had to turn the lights completely off in order to see it, so my picture isn't very good. The lume is the standard pale green color. It is fairly bright right off a bright light, but dims very quickly and will be non-visible in about 5-10 minutes. The Bezel - I already said it, but I'll say it again, I love the orange color of the bezel. In these up-close photos, you can see what looks like some streaky texture on the insert, but in person it is not visible. The bezel is uni-directional and has a nice stiffness to it. It's stiffer to turn than my DSSD, but it's not too stiff. It takes 120 clicks to get around the face. One small complaint I have is that the triangle on top doesn't line up precisely with the center of the 12 o'clock marker. It's just a hair off on either side. It is barely noticeable, but if you look hard you can see it. Something else I noticed when I was examining the photos is that the "2" and the "0" of the 20 are not aligned with each other. They seem to be tilted in toward each other slightly. All the rest of the numbers line up with each other. I don't know if this is common with this version or if it's just my specific watch. You can see it in a few photos above. Another big gripe with this rep is the pearl not being centered in the black triangle. As far as I can tell, this one looks pretty close to perfect. The Bracelet - I love the Omega bracelets; this one especially. The top is brushed and the sides are polished. The links have a nice rounded form to them and it fits comfortably on my wrist. There's only one link that binds a little and that's the half link. I will probably take it off and clean and lube the pins to see it that helps. If not, I'll probably replace it with a full link. The clasp is a nice deployment clasp with opposing buttons on the side to unlock it. The engraving on the back of the clasp looks really nice. It's a little hard to get it to click shut without pushing the release buttons, so that's what I do. Once it's on it holds securely. The clasp also has a smaller deployment clasp on the other side to fit over a wet suit. The engraving on the inside of the clasp also looks nice. The Case Back - This was one part of the watch I was pleasantly surprised with. The photos I've seen of the back make it look cheap. It isn't. The pattern around the Sea Monster is really nicely machined. The Sea Monster itself looks really nice. The "anti-counterfitting" logo is also nicely engraved. I think the "Planet Ocean" engraving could be a little deeper, but it's sharp and looks nice regardless. The standard serial number is nicely etched in the 7 o'clock lug. The Movement - I ordered this watch with the Swiss ETA 2824-2 movement. Someone asked me if it was a genuine "Swiss" ETA. I have no idea how to tell. I took some photos of it so that some of the more experienced folks can chime in. The rotor is labeled "Omega 2500", but it is a thin metallic sticker with the wording and some design. On mine, the sticker was not centered very well on the rotor, and some of the glue that holds it on seeped out of the top. I'm planing on removing the sticker and cleaning the rotor off soon. The Fit - I have a 7' wrist. I took 3 full links off the bracelet and it fits pretty nicely. I opted for the 42mm version of this watch but I think I could have pulled off the 45mm version as well. The 45mm probably would have had more presence, and it definitely would have demanded more attention. However, now that I have it I am very happy with the size of this one. Conclusion: I spent $318USD on this watch. Considering the gen costs more than $4,000USD I’d say I got a huge bargain! In my opinion every watch enthusiast should have one of these. The watch is absolutely beautiful. As with all reps, it has it's flaws, but they are minor and do not detract from the beauty of this watch. I couldn't be happier with this purchase, and I'm extremely happy with my experience with Andrew at Trusty Time (www.yourtrustytime.com). In fact, I'm placing another order for the Tag Aquaracer 500M with him right now! If there’s anything in my review that wasn’t clear or if you have any additional questions I can answer, don’t hesitate to ask. I hope you've all found this review informative and helpful!

Hi, This is my first post, and I have a concern/question about "Depart USPS Sort Facility" status. After reading lanikai's guide and looking around the forum, it seems it only takes one day for the watch to arrive after "Depart USPS Sort Facility" status. However, it seems different in my case. Here is some details from USPS tracking site. Processed Through Sort Facility April 18, 2012, 2:58 am ISC LOS ANGELES CA (USPS) Inbound into customs April 19, 2012, 4:26 am ISC LOS ANGELES CA (USPS) Inbound out of customs April 19, 2012, 4:26 am ISC LOS ANGELES CA (USPS) Processed through USPS Sort Facility April 19, 2012, 4:33 am LOS ANGELES, CA 90009 Depart USPS Sort Facility April 19, 2012, 4:33 am LOS ANGELES, CA 90009 Is it normal? or my order is actually still in the customs? it seems that my package is already released from the customs I live in Los Angeles and my zip code is 90012. Thanks, William

My Gen Link Calibre S by the side of a poor low quality fake. I bought the Gen in Nov last year. Set it exactly to the speaking clock. Checked it last week, it's only gained 10 seconds in all that time. Very pleased with it.