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Me too. I love the detail of the small beveled edge.

Other than it sucks? O.K. in fairness a VERY gracious member across the forums gave it to me. I wanted a silver date wheel. I tried one, but the printing just wasn't there for me. Angus sells the ones in his latest vintage offerings (which are pretty good) but 30 bucks - which when you are spending these kind of bucks should be a drop in the bucket, but hey, the damn MOVEMENT didn't cost that much!! Then I got this one. Flat top 3's and open 6 and 9's. Looks good. But the printing is off center. The 20's get reeeeaally close to the inside edge of the overlay. So much so that around the 27th the 2 is touching the edge of the window. But to get it a bit better, it has to be offset a bit. So the single digits and high teens don't ride center. If it's perfectly center in the window, the date does this little migration toward and away from the left edge with the mid teen's being absolutely perfect. It's the weak link in the build and I'm still on the hunt for one, but I couldn't wait to get this baby together and on my wrist.

Yup the crown is gen - crimps and all. But not sure of the crystal's pedigree, the bevel is not right. It was installed on the caseset when I got it. The caseset is gen 1.9 mil serial. The dial is from Sheartime. To my eyes it looks like a Mark 1, long E dial. The movement is a DG3804.

The old hour hand had a really open point. And the lume cutout on the old minute hand was a tad too short towards the end as well. The second hand reeeeaaallly stuck up from the rest of the stack too. But the mercedes bars in the new hour hand are too thick, the lume cutout is too narrow and the point while longer, is too narrow as well. The only rep hands I've seen that get these proportions right, get the length of the hand (the "stem" as it were) too short. I have this same handset on a couple of mine. *sigh* does anybody make a good set? How about for 21j's?

What's your guess?

You're right Freddy, my pics are crap. With the hands out of the way. . . Howzat? Better?

Done for quite a while now.. .

And not beat-to-death vintagized either

Nope. What praetor said. Both feet have to be moved. Been there, done that.

Yup was going to point that out, in addition to the fact that these days if everything is brand new, it's Asian. If it looks rebuilt, has screws that are damaged, or has weird parts together its Swiss. There was a thread on RWI by RSH about discovering a difference in construction of the stem.

Asian clone 2836-2. You can see the 2836-2 stamped on the bridge under the balance wheel in the first pic if you look with a magnifying glass or expand the pic.

I just bought two of these from ofrei. One to replace the sick one in my Omega SMP GMT and the other for another project. Neither have this date disc. . . I'm really bummed now!

BTW, who's date wheel did you use? Looks very good! The gens numbers progress in the opposite direction from the DG, so it would be interesting to know. Is it a cubic works?

The folded link jubilee is really awesome on this! jealous. .

Crown guards are like ta ta's. We all have an ideal of what we think is perfect, and they're all just a little bit different from one another

Silver open 6 and 9 date wheels. . . JMB GET CRACKIN! We needz dem wheelz!! I'd just about kill for one right now. There's a project going that just wouldn't be right without one. Shame the gens have the countdown in the wrong direction.

Thanks for resurrecting a 7 month old thread and making practically wet myself (as well as bother kurt with additional unnecessary emails)

You can be a scalawag anytime http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=xx-pirate

Yup dude, join the club. I've tried bleaching inserts using straight Clorox. Left one overnight it was ticking me off so bad. Not a thing happened. It's strange that some people have accidentally over-bleached theirs in under 15 minutes, too.

Love mine on Nato even more than on rivet!

Well I'll share a bit of the engineering on this one. Everything was going together waaaay too easy. Stupid easy. When I cased it up, the stem lined up, but ever-so-slightly off. Not enough to be a problem, but enough that it was noticeable to me. Then the hands. . .same issue here with the minute hand not clearing the markers. So, I was faced with several options to work out. Bending the hand was the easiest solution, but that's not my style. So a combination of several small changes all added up the clearance I needed. First, I filed off the small dimples on the dial spacer ring. But that put the date wheel too close to the dial. So second, off came the date wheel overlay and date wheel and I filed that down a tad - but I had to be careful not to do too much otherwise the overlay would rub on the movement. But this still didn't give me everything I needed and it was frustratingly close. Finally, I knew what I had to do. I was loathe to do it and knew disaster was right around the corner, but it was the only way. And this isn't for the faint of heart. . . I had to thin out the dial by grinding it down. Using my dremel with a sanding drum, slow speed and careful patience the dial is half the original thickness. This not only solved the hands problem, but the combo of the three also solved the stem issue.

A couple months ago, I picked up a gen dial off a member on RWI. I had a two-tone rep I thought this could go in. Unfortunately the dial was too small for the rehaut and didn't fit. So after a conversation with LHOOQ, I sorta talked myself out of the project because of the cost. But he told me the key was patience. So I slowly lurked and gathered the parts piecemeal over time. Here's the results - Everything in the build except the movement (ETA 2836) date wheel and hands are all gen, The case and crystal were off VRF, dial off RWI, the rest ebay. Here's all the parts And the caseback I used the dial spacer glued to the dial to affix it to the movement Boy, did this bracelet need work when I got it! Cleaned up, brushed up, and shined in all the right places it's not that bad! Cased up movement And the wrist shots!

Last week before I hit the road, gen 16000 case from Mark G. arrived to go with the gen DJ dial I picked up off RWI a month ago. I've mounted it on a ETA 2836 I had with rep DJ hands and DW overlay. So now, inbound are (and my wife tells me a few things have arrived); Gen crystal, gen crown and tube, gen engine turned bezel, and gen jubilee. And the bracelet year matches the case.

Yup - in my haste to search and post, I didn't even look carefully enough. And BTW, Mark Greenburg's email is moelarrycu at aol dot com I got my 16013 case from him too.

like this! http://www.ebay.com/itm/7mm-Rolex-Submariner-Double-Red-Sea-Dweller-Crown-702-/330608710489?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf9d09359