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TMG - so the Omega h/m hands fit the movt, eh? Hmmm....nice tip

Well since you're splitting hairs anyway, I'll put it another way.....it's worringly EASY. That better?

*drool* Gotta get me a 1655

Care to explain your ID name?

Ah, but like wine, there's always a threshold - the point at which beyond it's only good for sprinkling on your fish and chips

Reminds me of one of my old sets of golf clubs - made out of beryllium-copper alloy - had a really nice bronze colour which developed a nice dark patina with use but after a while the finish just ended up flat and dull. No amount of refinishing could bring back the nice lustre

Hmmm, from an aesthetic point of view, I like the first strap V. But to be honest, the messy overadorned dial (euuuw!) and the bronze case (lloks like an Oxyclean Ti mod gone wrong) leave me cold. (if the owner's reading this - sorry!)

Much against my better judgement, I'll bite and then say no more... Firstly elwopo, much as I like the HKP avatar ('Spot' was my hero though), I think this is an ill-thought and inappropriate thread to dig up and restir again. This is an international WATCH forum where you're always going to get your "gun-toting Yankees", "pacifist liberals", and "agnostic disapproving Europeans". In other words, it's a pointless argument here. Lobby your MP, Representative, Senator, whatever, instead, if you feel that strongly. Capt Cope - your arguments are way off-base - using disease analogies is deeply flawed - there are simply other dynamics involved in that arena. Dieselpower - seriously, you really think guns are hard to come by in the UK?! And require paperwork?! I wish it were true... V - surprised to hear that not only because of your compulsory military service as a youngster, but also considering the city where you live and the terrible (statistically-supported) reputation it has... Andrew - sorry to hear that - admire your stance, especially as it goes against the grain over that side of the Pond.

Yikes, a swine amongst pearls Nope not buying that 'adds life' crap. The 'Coke' (I really dislike that obvious nickname) was only introduced with the launch of the 'Sophia' 16760 GMTII in the early '80s. I'm sure you could spec a Jubilee but by then it was adorning cheesy TT Datejusts etc.

Not quite got the hang of this ransom lark have you Nanuq? *Alaskan bank robber, waving gun in cashier's face* "see all that cash in the vault? well this is my account no. here at branch, transfer it all NOW! And no funny business or I'll shoot..."

Who? Me? Children of Men you mean? Ok, lumpy plot, some hammy acting (Caine), pointless dialogue, exposition for sake of it, lack of score, no payoff ending, director (who has a great reputation) self-indulgently awful. Will that do?

that's a great analogy! Yep she did indeed pop round last weekend all dressed up like a "Duchess" They had to close off the entire street and made me move my car (pfff, not very 'nineteenth century' apparently) Looked quite dull and it was very cold out there. Have some more interesting location shots on my camera, but for privacy reasons I won't post here.

Two things.... 1. Michael Caine - affable? 2. Hugh Jackman isn't in 'V' at least not the version I saw - Hugo Weaving you mean.

Finally got round to seeing that recently, and despite the prescence of my old North London neighbour Clive, I hated it.....a lot. Dark and unrelentingly depressing hole-ridden plot with a crappy ending, one of those films where you feel like suing the producers for stealing two hours from your life Contrast it with another plot/setting-similar film I also only got round to watching a couple of weeks ago (timely too ) - V for Vendetta. Superb stuff. Everything Children of Men should have been, but wasn't.

:lol: You know you could be onto something there *huzzah* The word 'Jubilee' does bring to mind 1977 (which I don't remember) and the old dear's (QE2) Silver Jubilee, which I'm told was more enthusiastically celebrated than her Golden one in 2002. So yes, I concede we are a nation of no-nonsense, tweed-wearing, pint glass-grasping, wolfhound-rearing, fox-baiting, waxed moustache-sporting party poopers who refuse to see the merits in the 'fussy and ladylike' Jubilee

I was only joking about the dremel (I couldn't imagine anyone having the balls to attempt that on a gen 1675 case!), so glad to see Euno has nixed that from a practical point of view - even if it was possible, the pointy CGs would be VERY difficult to reproduce, has curves and lines that you can't just hew from scratch. One thing I think we can all agree on though is the GMT is probably the most enigmatic and fascinating Rolex Sports of all - its chameleon nature and evolution over the years provides such a variety in look. Oyster, Jubilee, leather (), Pepsi, All-Black, etc. there's a combination to suit all tastes

Ah I knew Euno would weigh in on this with his mk I '60's Jubilee. Very interesting, especially as I have never seen or come across one of these vintage Jubilees over here in EU. I don't have FACT to back me up here, as simply none exists, but I have it good authority that this is one of those times when Rolex bracelet detail splits in two onto diverging paths. Early Jubilee were almost exclusively produced for the US (and possibly Asian) markets (same as the C&I bracelets), whereas Europe remained steadfastly Oyster. Possibly one of the reasons for this is that as I said earlier, a European national airline (Alitalia) was an original stakeholder/'interested party' in the commission of the GMT, yet for whatever reason did not follow through on order. The GMT 6542 became quite literally the PanAm watch (both pilots and the rare white-dialled ground crew version) and the rest is history.

The interesting thing is that '64 was a big transitional year in the evolution of the GMT, a LOT of changes occured both cosmetic (CG's, dial etc) and internal (switchover from c.1565 to c.1575). So you could swing both ways, kick with either foot, bat for both teams etc. heh heh... Me, I'd go as early original as I could get away with. You know I saw something interesting for you earlier, just have to dig it out, hold on.... Ah, here it is.... Rolex GMT-Master ref. 1675, cassa con spallette a punta, prodotto nel 1964. Quadrante nero glossy con grafica oro e minuteria chiusa, definito "tropicale" per la tonalit

Hmmm, '64, yes I believe you could pull that off, same as you could drop a gilt dial and 'small' GMT hand. Right now, gorgeous as she is, you have a '60's watch with a '70's bracelet with an (almost)'80's dial. Of course, that's merely a purist opinion, you spec her however you like. "Ghastly" you say? We can't have you suffering like that, no no. You know what you have to do

Not true. PanAm and Alitalia approached Rolex waaay back in '53 to commission the GMT Master. The 6542 was borne followed by the 1675. All on Oysters, first rivetted then folded. It wasn't until the early '70s that a Jubilee became available as an alternative to the Oyster.

Obviously I'd first have to say that "someone" clearly has superb taste Secondly, such a lovely shot for the Jubilee campaign but why such a quick and dirty pic for the Oyster? (hmmm, been reading the "Robert Mugabe Book of Democracy" have we? ) Well no surprises that I'm an Oyster man through and through - no offence intended but I see Jubilee-lovers as banjo-playing, sheep-worrying, nylon-wearing, Vegas-slot-playing throwbacks. N - seriously, if you really can't stand the sight of that infidel folded Oyster on your beauty, then you could always send it on a little transatlantic trip

Exactly how I feel Euno. Many's a time I've liked a watch on the page and it's done absolutely nothing for me on the wrist, and vice versa. Dropped by my local B&R AD at the weekend - they are getting the first shipment in next week, so I'll report back then.

Well I'm sure it can be linked somehow to everyone's profile and user's local timezone I too like the new TZ one - BR-02 Diver

Not a new release, but still... Elizabeth the Golden Age Ok it plays a little loose and fast with certain historical facts (dramatic licence I suppose) and I doubt it'll go down a storm in the Vatican, but Cate Blanchette is, as always, extremely watchable, and the direction and cinematography superb. Once again, ignoring the reviews pays dividends. Not going to win any Oscars of course, but all of our party liked it, which is really all that matters.

A VERY worthy substitution Some details perhaps?