Thanks for your response. I cant find anything to disagree with thats for sure. The thing I hate is some new members will post some questions that might be of the noobish variety, witch I totaly understand. Sometimes these post will have no replys whats so ever. Im sure you have seen this yourself. I feel bad for that member. To return here and find nothing. It wont give you a case of the warm and fuzzys thats for sure. So I do what I can to make a new member feel welcomed. I can only hope that said member will not be offended. It sounds to me that your forum savy, thats half the battle right there. I can see you have been around. This is the first forum that I have. ever joined. If know one would have responded to my first post I would have probably have left and not thought much of this community. So I try to welcome folks and return the same consideration that was so freely given to me. Again welcome and be careful,the bug has a vicious bite Mike