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Indeed- Hobbies only stay interesting as long as there's something to do, something to be had or something to be sought after. I remain optimistic that something will come along to rekindle the flame... But in the bigger picture, it's not really about the watches any longer, but more about the friendships made that keeps me around

The age of innocence is lost... We're going through growing pains as a forum. Change is inevitable, and not always for the best. I've been feeling burned out for quite some time now.

Kurt- 9 times out of 10, it's the date getting hung up on advancement because the overlay is rubbing on the underside of the dial. I ran into the problem, and I think Ziggy did too. There just isn't a ton of clearance between the date disc and the dial. This is also one of the reasons why we didn't use metal. We couldn't find metal thin enough to do the job (printing was an entirely different problem in and of itself). Anyhow... Please send me a PM...

16610 case, which is incorrect for a 16600- Crystal diameter on the SD is almost 1mm smaller, and the crystal is thicker as well. Couple of other flaws are present a well... All the usual ones... Someday, maybe the factories will realize the demand for a good 16600- One that's correct in dimensions and details. For now... The only SD worth getting (in my opinion) is the MBW 1665 vintage...

Well, the DW's come with the subdial hand completely frozen- Nothing to do there. In fact... The hand is slightly attached to the dial. Would have never known that until I took mine apart. As for the ones from Andrew and Joshua... I thought those already came with the Venus installed?

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Yeah... DW's with the MM are all bi-compax and the V23 is basically the V72 without the hour counter.. The 12 hour counter is a dummy sub dial. Which, for me is okay, as I never use the stopwatch in any of my Daytonas.

Well, the EE simply has a taller caseback to accomodate the rotor. Otherwise, the dimensions are quite similar. One thing about the DW mystery movement case- The rehaut is taller since the V23 and mm are a bit thinner in profile vs. the 7750 and V72. This must be a result of the 12 hour counter function not being present. So, ultimately, you want- 1) shallow rehaut 2) low profile case back 3) crown in-line with pushers 4) asymmetrically spaced pushers 5) 37mm diameter case (not counting the crown) 6) 19mm lugs. The case that fills those requirements the closest is the DW V72 case kit (or the one from Dinh)...

Think it all depends on what your end goal is. DW is nice for two reasons- 1) the model with the mystery (misery) movement can be easily changed out for a Swiss V23- All you need is the movement and the right hands. Upgrade the crystal crown and tube with gen, and you have a very nice watch that should last a very long time with regular servicing. 2) If you go with a V72 case kit from DW, it's also a pretty straight forward swap, though each case/movement fitting combo may have it's own specific nuances that might not apply to another similar DW case/movement combination (it's never always guaranteed that these things will go together hassle free, so expect a little massaging to get everything to mesh together). The EE is nice as I believe it to be a similar case to the DW V72; I have not tried fitting a V72 into one just yet, but I suspect it should work. The downside to replacing the 7750 clone movement with a V72 is that you'll have to source a new dial, hands and caseback to get everything just right. If you plan on keeping it as a 7750, then you're set. I myself went with a DW watch with mystery movement swapped to a V23, but that's because I already had the watch and the cost for the V23 just couldn't be passed up If I were to do it all again, I'd probably go with a V72 case from DW and add the movement. It would require less footwork tracking down the parts needed for the swap, and you'll end up with a nice Cosmo with as near original movement as possible ticking away under the caseback

Hiya Kurt- Hmmmm... Interesting find... Though the gen vintage insert in my MBW bezel sits slightly recessed without mods already and snaps in- No glue or tape necessary... Perhaps this is for the non-MBW's only? The only insert/bezel combo I've had to muck with was for the modern 16610's- Since the gen inserts are much deeper than the reps, those take some work to get them to sit right (height wise)... Still- Very nice job as always! Keep up the great work

B- Hit me up on PM So... What's the popular hair style for the ladies this year at St. Barts? Brazilian? Or smooth? Gotta love nekkid chicks with Daytonas (or with POs, ROOs... Hell, or no watch at all )... M- Did you PM me? I don't recall seeing an email...

Thanks, sam Yeah... Gen hands are a must for this project. Unfortunately, the 7750 hands are too large at the pinion to fit (as it is, the gen hands have to be slightly modified to fit properly). Plus, the gen hands are WG plated, and really add to the overall look of the watch which is very apparent under light/reflection; they match the WG indicies and subdial rings of the dial to tie everything together aesthetically

Or, you can contact ol' ubi... He might know a thing or two... Maybe...

Indeed... Always nice to give a nice timepiece to a friend or relative. I've given away a few of my projects... And everytime I see the recipient, they always have that watch on (which makes me smile). Cheers to my pals...

Oops... Self correction... The correct cal designation for the original EP400 is the 3019 PHC. I always get those two mixed up (PFC has the moonphase, etc). Anyways... Thanks for the kind words. For a couple thousand more, I could have just bought a genuine 16520 (or for the same money, a 116520 at retail), but the fun for me is in building. Plus, I like being able to have both dial colors to choose from every morning. Selection is always nice

Hmmmm.... The Ebel movement is a 134, which is an El Primero 400- Same base movement Rolex used for the 4030 in the 16520. Same goes for the Movado below it- El Primero 400 aka the PFC 3019- 31j. I purchased the Ebel movement for $800; the other was $1200 as I had to purchase a complete watch for the movement. Total cost that I have into my Daytonas to date- White dial = $3800; black dial = $3900. The genuine dials, which were my final addition to both pieces were a good portion of the of the cost as well; those were around $800 per dial.

For a 16520, there is but one answer...

freddy- DW's are still around... I think. I'll need to ask... EE's are no longer around, I believe. These do come up on occassion on the secondary market, however. If I come across any prior to reaching the market, I'll let you know...

kanerich- Very well said... Deliver what you say... Say what you'll do. Charge appropriately. It's easy math...

Netflix for watches... Meh.

If I may... Here is one along a similar theme. I took this pic right before I gave it one to a friend of mine...

Euno- The EE is a very similar case to the DW; correct 37mm case, 19mm lugs, asymmetric pushers and so on. Some old comparo's... Thicker caseback on the EE for the 7750 rotor... The EE will also accept a genuine T-21

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I've got Cam's old EE 6263 sitting in my projects box for him. It's waiting for him to find a new movement for it

Whatever.