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Today, I am carrying
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A rosy way to end the work week
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The last 2 I saw went for something in the mid-200s & I would expect this 1 to do the same. Since the book went out of print last year, they have become instant collectors' items with similarly collectors' item value. But whatever its cost, if you are a serious Daytona collector, this is THE Bible.
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Post pics of the options & we will tell you.
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I believe the bezels are made to fit the aftermarket crystals DW's cases generally ship with, which are a slightly lighter gauge than the Rolex crystals. So you will need to trim some metal from the inside of the bezel.
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I had to remove some metal from the outside edge of the calendar ring on the 1575 to get it to seat correctly in my MBW 1665 case (you might be able to locate the thread that described the work via the search). However, I had no problem getting the 1520 to fit in my MBW 5514 case. Both stems are correctly aligned.
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Enough time spent in the gold mines, now it is back to reality
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Rolex calls these bracelets 'capped-gold', but you can use whatever term you prefer. I have only seen this bracelet once before on a gold Air King 5520, which is itself rather rare. There is some logic in your premise, but I have never seen Rolex fit Oyster pushers to a non-Oyster case & I doubt they would ever do that either purposely or by mistake. That said, I have little doubt that there are gen Daytonas out there that have been 'upgraded' (by non-Rolex watchmakers), but I think that anyone with more than a rudimentary knowledge of vintage Rolex would (correctly) view such a watch with great suspicion & would assume, also, that the watch is likely a fake or franken. Since DW's cases have 1 of the generally reliable marks of a gen (asymmetrical pushers) & gold Newmans are such oddities anyway, my watch would need to have some kind of glaring mistake for most WIS types to recognize it as a franken. Unfortunately, Oyster pushers on a non-Oyster case is 1 of the 1st things any Rolex WIS looks for, so getting the correct pushers installed are at the top of my to do list.
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Ofrei sells packages of assorted screws (not blued, but I doubt that anyone will notice) that will contain some that fit your bridge. Try Bergeon Assortment of Screws, 10229 Watch Bridge Screws (BERG-10229).
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Cost & reliability. I may, at some point in the future, convert over to V72, but (excepting the incorrect pushers, which DW thinks he can correct soon) I am quite happy with the watch the way it is. I overhauled the movement prior to assembly & the A7750 is alot easier to work on than a V72. 1 of my other V72 Newmans has developed a winding problem (the stem is stuck & the movement will not wind) & my last V72 overhaul was enough of a nightmare that I may just send the 'winding problem' to Ziggy. When I balance the 7750's lower cost & ease-of-repair against the V72's slightly more accurate subdials (in the case of Newman dials), there just is not enough there to sway me over.
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I cannot see the mark, but I do see that the factory has corrected the long-tail 3 - more or less, which is a serious improvement over all of their previous Newman dials (which all had the wrong font for that 3). As usual, 1 step forward (long-tail 3) & a couple steps back (square 0s with odd fonts & off-center coronet).
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I would love to find a beveled aftermarket T21, but none exists that I am aware of. Still, even if an aftermarketeer got the bevel right, the gens have a sparkle that I have never seen in any aftermarket crystal. 62xx Daytonas fitted with a beveled gen T21 produce a jewel-like appearance that I have never seen with any other Rolex watch.
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The coronet looks a bit crooked, some of the 0s look a bit squarish & hard to tell the quality of the printing, but, otherwise, it looks pretty good. Where did you source it?
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How to age a 1665 pearl and how to remove caseback paintings?
freddy333 replied to prdubis's topic in The Rolex Area
I hope you removed the movement before putting the watch in the dryer! Paint remover will remove the paint on the caseback. I buy the spray can at any hardware or auto parts store & follow the instructions on the can. -
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I got my 1st gen Rolex in the early 80s & it was the same watch - a 16013 with gold dial. TT is no longer my taste, but a great set & nice find, Stephane.
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Sorry, but that is 1 of the 1st things (like the missing long-tail 3 on rep Newman dials) I look for to ID a gen vs aftermarket Bond Sub dial. That is why I opted for the non-depth-rated dial for my 6536/1. Less is always more, especially when it comes to aftermarket dials (fewer things to get wrong). I would bake it for a bit in the middle of your oven at 500 degrees. The exact amount of time will depend on the look you are after. But I would think that 5+ minutes would be a start. Just be sure to situate the hand face-up so the paint on the top of the hand is not touching anything. Scrumptious.
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The case is gold-plated, which means, as is the case with all gold-plated reps, the watch is better suited to modeling for pictures rather than actual use. Unlike steel, where scratches (that reveal more steel) can add character to a steel sport watch, gold-plated reps are effectively revealed for what they are with every scratch (since the scratch reveals the underlying steel base - something you would never see on a gen gold case). To my eye, a 62xx Newman Daytona is the only gold watch worthy of exclusion from my non-gold Rolex rule. The Daytona, in general, & Newman, in particular, has the right combination of complexity, delicacy & rarity to suffer cladding in gold without appearing either pompous or like the watch equivalent of the in famous Golden Hammer - a tool that would look silly being used for its intended purpose. But different strokes......... The leaves of the clasp are stainless steel, which is why they are so marked.
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Bravo!!!!!!!!!!!! & kudos to the Zigmeister for yet another in a series of incredible wonderful spectacular awesome jobs.
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I like what you have done so far. When I did my 6236/1, I considered going 6538 & using the same dial, but the off-center = in the depth line put me off. I like the white seconds hand, too, but I would tone down the white - it looks too pristine for a 50+ year old watch.
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Saturday night
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Need some advice on how to clean watch hands
freddy333 replied to Drulee's topic in General Discussion
Rodico is exactly what you need, but it is important to use a fresh/clean piece. Otherwise, you are just spreading/smearing the residue that has collected on the rodico. -
Ditto. Thanks, Zig. That is certainly an option, but I am waiting to see if DW can supply the correct pushers. Yes, as always, I think a gen bracelet adds alot of credibility to a franken. Especially, in the case of gold. The bracelet came from Andy. And between the Brevet crown (somewhat rare on any Rolex, but very rare in the case of a Daytona) & gold bracelet with its unusual stampings I think the gen parts look just odd enough to make viewers think the watch's other 'irregularities' (excepting the incorrect pushers, which MUST be dealt with) are all just more of Rolex's infamous exceptions to (their) nearly every rule. Thanks & neither am I (a fan of gold). But some watches just go beyond their metals & the 6239 Newman is 1 of those.
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From Mondani's '100 Years of Rolex', but I went with the rarer '300 Units' bezel