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According to the book Rolex Daytona: A Legend is Born, 'The Daytona signature......celebrated Rolex's historic sponsorship of the famed Nascar Stock Car race, in Daytona Beach Florida.' Top pusher starts & stops the chrono. Once stopped, the bottom pusher resets all 3 chrono hands back to their null (12 o'clock) positions. Most Daytona owners rarely, if ever, actually use the chronograph functions. And, in the case of Daytona reps, it is probably best to use the chrono as little as possible, especially if your watch has not been properly overhauled by a trained watchsmith. You might find this useful

Outstanding watch, Stilty. There is nothing like a folded-link 783x 'hair-puller' to dot the final 'i' or cross that last 't' on a vintage Rolex piece

Correct on both counts -- you went too far & the screw dislodged. But your watchmaker should know what to do (rebuild the keyless works). Glad to hear you were able to improve the CGs & get the caseback removed. Looking forward to seeing the completed watch.

Michael Young or NDtrading. Definitely not gen.

For an online gen buyer or newb that does not know about RWG or have the time or inclination to spend days searching the web for info, this seems like a good way to get up to speed on reps. Based on the paragraph you included, it sounds very similar to what I tell newbs (familiarize yourself with fit & finish of gens at your AD, etc). What page is this link on?

Workweek = beater But francodino's lovely Datejust makes me wish I had strapped 1 of these onto my other wrist (Second hands appear bent because pic made on a slow scanner)

Think Podcast with a packet sniffer.

I know the site is not hosted in the US & the RIAA cannot stop everyone, but they did eliminate the rampant downloading that was occurring before they brought their suits. Based on experience, I stand by my comments. Victoria - I doubt anyone will find me by way of a doctored picture -- ask anyone who has met me.

I believe the stem release is the screw just above & to the right of the stem in your last picture. Turn it only as much as needed to release the stem, no further.

Search out the history of Napster to see how effective the RIAA was in eliminating rampant free mp3 downloading (in a matter of months)?

Welcome. If you limit your buying to the Collectors here, you can be reasonably sure that what you see & read is what you will get. Take some trips to your local authorized dealer (AD) and try on the watch or watches you are interested in to learn how they feel & look on your wrist. Then go to the vendor's website and download as many pictures of your watch as you can. Then, and only then, should you consider yourself sufficiently informed to begin to make copious use of the Search link above to locate the best rep (for you). Good luck.

With the recent increase in package inspections by the US Homeland Security dept coupled with this & other recent raids, I think the tide is about to turn with regard to the (mostly) free & open exchange of contraband on the Web. As long as RWG remains accessible from google, it is just a matter of time until the authorities & their army of hungry lawyers turn their sights on RWG & other sites like it. Best to pull the window shades down & lock the doors when dancing naked.

I will try to make it. I can see why so few people ever make it to these things. The GTG section is buried near the bottom of RWG's (rather long) main index page & I doubt many people ever read it (I only found out about the GTG because DuDro let me know). I think it would be better to post GTG notices in the General Discussion forum. That way, more people would see them.

In this case, it has nothing to do with ignorance. sssurfer is a long-time RWG member & I believe he took a chance with this unknown seller because the seller posted pictures of the famed 1st version secs at 6 (thin case) Daytona, which seems to outlive most of the Daytonas sold by our trusted sellers. Unfortunately, in this case, it appears that this gamble did not pay off. You live & you learn.

I am curious to see what excuse Tony gives for why the pictures on his website do not match the watches he is selling.

Compare to gen God is in the details. --Ludwig Mies van der Rohe

I do not believe Javier owns that watch. The pictures come from another gen website (he sent me the link separately). Your crown is decent, but not correct. I replaced mine (along with the tube & pushers) with gen parts. Your clasp looks good on the outside, but some of the printing on the inner polished section is partially wrong. Each of the 3 versions of secs at 6 Daytonas has something different wrong with the printing on the polished section of the clasp. And, of course, all 1165xx Daytona reps have the wrong caseback. It should look like this (picture taken from the site Javier sent me)

Firstly, I would return the watch because it is NOT the watch pictured on his site. The watch you received, as I mentioned previously, has all of the sins of the other 2 versions (the original version that has the correctly proportioned case like I have & like he has pictured on his website & the current version that some of our collectors sell that has the near-perfect dial and thick case) without any of their merits. Answer to question 1 -- Technically, a slower-beating movement may last longer because it is generating less friction & wear than the same design running at a higher beat. The differences in wear are small, but they could have some effect on longevity when the movement is constantly under strain by the extra gearing. Ziggy would be better to answer that though. Answer to question 2 -- The beat amplitude (dial up) of my nearly 4 year old (21.6bph) secs at 6 Daytona runs around 193. The (28.8bph) 2nd version secs at 6 Daytona measures around 273. The (28.8bph) watch I recently got from Josh (the 3rd & current version secs at 6 Daytona) runs around 310. These 3rd version 7750s are the ones that most RWG members own & which most often die, so it would be hard to make the case for high amplitude, by itself, accounting for longer longevity in these secs at 6 7750s.

To me, it looks like the inside walls of each of the CGs was cut at a slightly different angle in addition to possibly being a different width, which was 1 of the original complaints. That may be why the crown looks off-center.

I unwristed my beater for a quick pic just as I was about to plumb the depths to a parking garage during my travels on Monday

Conflicted is the right word. My initial impression was that, overall, the watch presents much like a gen, at least in the full-frontal picture. The ill-fitting end links & mediocre bracelet actually give it a bit more credibility as these are sometimes seen on older Tudors (which were often considered 'throw-away' Rolexes, being their 'budget' line), because the originals were often lost or damaged by the time the watch makes it down to the 2nd or 3rd owner. On the other hand, upon closer inspection I see that the end links are not just ill-fitting, but crap & the rest of the bracelet does not look much better. The dial, to me, is the shining star here & makes up for alot of the other sins (but not all of them). For a watch of this vintage, I would expect the lume to be dim, at best, or completely dark. So that would not bother me. What does bother me is the immobile caseback. Whether it was just innocently over-tightened (which can potentially cause damage to the case and/or movement) or whether it was purposely installed that way to hide something inside would worry me.

Spend some time at your local AD (authorized dealer) to get an idea of which models you like & how they look & feel in real life (and on your wrist -- yes, try them on). Once you have done your own homework, come back & make use of the Search feature to research the quality of the specific models you are interested in & which reps have the least objectionable sins (all commercially manufactured reps contain inaccuracies and only you can decide which you can live with & which you cannot).

Watch spotting is a harmless & quite normal activity. Just wait until you begin honing in on the wrists of male performers in porn (often to the exclusion of everything else). That is when you officially become a WIS.

Wearing this to a lunch/meeting with clients Then back to the beater for the rest of the day (I like to keep the 116520 as pristine as possible, so it sees limited wrist time -- at least during the work week)

If you find a 1019 rep with the proper dimensions & case markings, let me know if you can get a 2nd one.