freddy333

As would I.....

The Daytona is kind of an anachronism in the collectible watch market. That is, it went from being an ugly duckling that relatively few people wanted (believe it or not, during the 1960's and 1970's, ADs often had to offer sizable discounts to move them out of their display cases) to THE most sought after watch in the world. The metamorphosis resulted from the perfect storm of sudden resurgence of interest in luxury mechanical watches during the tech/stock market boom of the 1980's; the urban myth of (and resulting connection to) Paul Newman appearing in the motion picture Winning with a Daytona on his wrist (though there is no photographic evidence to support this) (Screenshot from 'Winning') a number of Italian magazines featuring photos of Paul Newman wearing a 'Newman' Daytona that was given to him by his wife, Joanne Woodward; (One of the photos that appeared in a number of Italian magazines during the early 1980's which sparked the Daytona craze in Italy) and Rolex's brilliant marketing strategy of bottlenecking the production & distribution of the Daytona when demand began rising steadily for the watch during the mid-90's.

There have been for many years independent watch companies who have been producing Rolex copies but without the Rolex branding. Some of them occasionally advertise their watches just pages away from Rolex ads in major magazines and trade journals. I have always wondered why Rolex allows them to copy their designs down to every detail (except for the Rolex branding), but I have never heard of Rolex going after any of them for trademark or patent infringement. This tells me that Rolex is much more concerned with protecting their name than their designs.

As would I......

Actually, I did not catch his location as being in the UK, so the pricing makes alot more sense as well for these watches.

Behind every big business lies a big crime. --J.P. Morgan

Now that is something I do not see every day -- a woman who is more interested in watches than her man.

Ditto Alligoat. Get a gen case & many of your problems will go away. They tend to be quite reasonably priced on ebay ($120-$200). If I remember correctly, I think the case for this project cost about $125

Interesting. The Wall Street Journal ran a very nice (and rather extensive) feature on high-end watches on Saturday. Several articles on different aspects of collecting, values & auctions. If you can find a newsagent that still has a copy, I would recommend picking it up. Well worth the trouble.

The price quoted makes me a bit suspicious. Have you checked out the seller to be sure he's legit? I wonder....... You might do well to post good, clear photos of both watches (front, side & back). That aside, I am not a big fan of either the YM (gaudy & silly-looking) or gold tool watches (just gaudy), but, between the two, I would go with the two-tone Sub (lesser of 2 evils). I should also say that I really hate these types of questions, because only YOU know what you like. What works for me and my clothing- and life-style has absolutely no relevance for you or anyone else. The real question is: Which one do YOU like better? ___________ UPDATE: I see you added the specs. If the watches are being sold by a reputable AD, then I presume they are 100% gen and the paperwork matches the watches (serial numbers, styles, etc.). Therefore, you can disregard my suspicions.

That is one of the biggest problems with Rolex watches--whether you are servicing a gen or building a franken--there are so many variations between (and within) model lines that you really do need to do your homework before embarking on the work. Like they say, 'Measure twice, cut once.'

Is the boyfriend a watch fan, too? And a member?

No.

I agree with Carl. I would contact your credit card bank and place a dispute hold on the purchase. I have had to do this two times for reps--once for a defective rep watch & the other time with this Faisal crook (since paypal took Faisal's side, even though I had the paperwork that proved my case and my bank agreed with me). Even seeing all of the photos and email exchanges that made it pretty obvious that these were not gen watch parts, my bank never batted an eye over the matter of my purchasing rep watches & parts (credit card banks really are the greediest bastards in the world, but, in this case, it helps when they are on your side). It took several weeks (the bank kept asking for additional explanations in writing), but, in the end, I did get satisfaction (and all of my money back).

Outstanding work, Volker. I am not a big Panerai fan, but I have to say that that may be one of the nicest Pan straps I have seen.

Depends on my mood & what I decide to wear tomorrow (still Sunday evening here), but probably one of these (Yes, the chrono seconds hand is missing in this photo)

Have you contacted Craigslist yet?

You are too easy.

Thanks and I don't care what anyone says about you, you're alright in my book, Victoria. Here is a little something for you (since candy & flora are out)

Not mutual (you seem fairly sane to me) and I am not crazy, just an iconoclast.

Odd you mention that. My grandfather gave me my first watch when I was 6. An Accromatic self-winding mechanical watch made by the Accro Watch Co., which I not only still have, but it is presently sitting on my table (in pieces) undergoing an overhaul.

I only wear a watch when I need to know the time (and I generally do not carry a cell phone anymore), so it does not bother me in the least whether someone else wears one or not.

A Newman Day (Yes, the chrono seconds hand is missing in this photo)

I like the improvement. It will make it easier to spot the watch in the snow.

Hairspring is likely magnetized, which causes the coils to stick together. This reduces the spring's effective length and makes the balance wheel (and watch) run faster than normal. This is the most common cause for a watch running fast after a service. Either the watch was never demagnetized by the watchmaker or the watch was placed in or near a magnetic field sometime afterwards. A quick & easy fix for any professional watchmaker.