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I think a lot of the problem with "New" Rolex collectors is that they haven't a clue. Its kind of like the used car buyers now, if anything at all even the slightest blemish the car is [censored] or immensely devalued and they badger you over it lol

Yea DSN was never a lot of money. What made DSN famous was his Pre V parts, he was the only one selling preV case sets etc... and at times was sourcing some pretty damn good luminor based full watches.

A huge loss to the world whether people think so or not. Certainly to me as my country being a member of the commonwealth she has been a great loss. I fear the monarchy will never be the same, will never have the same respect. She represents a different breed of people, a breed we will sadly never see again.

Thanks for the clarification on the phong and j$W lol don’t know how I didn’t get that lol my movement is a genuine gmt movement, not a shortcut or built movement and the dial is gen spec. The screws are literally a fraction of a MM from being able to work. I’ve been wanting to mill slightly on the retainer ring on case but I’ve just not had the time 😅 I can only assume the case is machine to genuine, but obviously not if my setup is slightly out, pretty much out that .1mm to fitting. So maybe the case is machined incorrectly 🤷🏼‍♂️

How is that J$W case compared to say a phong ? I have A phong now and it’s not accepting my genuine 1570/75 movement 😅 it’s starting to agitate me as I’ve not been able to assemble my project. but to add to your point, yea it’s getting a bit closer to the point of not being worth using genuine movements with where the prices are going. 😅

Never really noticed this before, I’ll check my dial tomorrow and see. I’ll also check the gabillion photos of gens that I have saved for comparison on my build. interesting find and detail though. Cheers !

I’ll have to snatch one of those up. I’ll shoot you a mesg when I get home in a few days. 😎

Absolutely stunning ! Nice work !!

Got it from Whoopy

Lol it seems the longer we have been at this the more anal about details we get 🤣🤷🏼‍♂️ what’s been holding me up is the case is a phong and it’s not fitting the keepers of the genuine 1575 correctly. So I’ve been thinning out the Inner ring by hand to accommodate using the gen screws. I get frustrated with it and then leave it for a while etc… lol I hope it will be as good as I’m planning when it’s finished. it’s a phong case, gen 1575 gmt movement, gen crown and stem, gen NOS crystal, Ming dial, gen NOS hands, gen correct open 6 and 9 date wheel. bracelet is just a rep one for now until I find the right one.

A lot of interesting perspectives on what constitutes as a franken etc.. I’ve always thought of a franken to be any mix of components, from several sources and not necessarily using genuine parts. I think as time went on in this hobby, it became the norm to only consider watches with gen parts as frankens. However an otb rep with say a gen date wheel or just a gen crown installed, I wouldn’t consider that a franken. I know it goes against the basis of what I’m saying as it’s still a mismatch of parts. say we use a mix of noob and ARF Daytona parts to achieve a much better rep, that in the old days would be a franken. but now it seems that that term is reserved for watches with genuine parts. but then we have the term geninstein lol what constitutes as a geninstein ? 😅🤷🏼‍♂️ Just my 2c

Thanks for the input, I’m going to have another look at it today and I’ll have a look deeper in detail to the potential bur that you mention. it’s a genuine NOS date wheel for the 1655 so I really hope to get it working lol 😅 been about two years trying to get this watch together.

I think this may be my issue on the thickness. Or maybe something along those lines. this movement has been working in another GMT Watch it’s a genuine GMT movement, but I changed the date wheel to the open 6 and 9 for the 1655 and then it started to act funny on the date change. im thinking potentially the date wheel for the GMT’s may be thinner than the date wheel for the others 🤷🏼‍♂️ I need to measure as it seems like this date wheel is hanging up vs the date wheel that was in it. I thought the same, but all of the spacers I’ve seen now are like that for the 15XX

Hey fellas, just in the process of assembling a long standing project 1655. my date ring looks like it has a crimp on it that I’m unsure if it’s supposed to be there 🤷🏼‍♂️😅 I’m having an issue of the date setting correctly, so I’m wondering if this is the cause. please see the photos for those who have experience with this movement and give some ideas on what’s up or whether this little crimp should be or not be there 😅

Hey fellas, This is purely out of curiosity than anything. The same dealer ive been going to for several years now and has been ultra quick and good to deal with, suddenly became half annoying to deal with. Taking forever to reply to emails and dragging his heels on getting me watches etc.. I know things are messed up all over but, this is becoming a bit much. Anyone else having issues like this ? Maybe i need to start dealing with someone else.

LOL so im not the only one getting newbie awards for a year of membership on my I think 12th year or something, maybe longer lol

Beauty build ! I love those ! I built one a few years back and loved it !

Who are these contacts you mention for cases etc ? I’ve never heard of either before, but in saying that I’ve also not been on the forums much in the past year or so. 😅

I get what you’re saying and I’m with you 100% on that point of view, however it’s just as easy to spoon feed the simple answer as it was to shoot it down. Noob questions are annoying, especially when they are frequent, but also some of these fellas or ladies could be new and unaware of the forum etiquette and just tossing out these questions with then the regret after when they realize certain form is expected. lol I know this all too well as I was one of those asking silly repetitive questions that were likely answered a million times, but getting answered and learning by those answers is what got me into being interested in this hobby. 🤷🏼‍♂️ either way I was picking at you lol just felt like it was a simple question to answer.

I know this is an old post but i feel like an answer was easier than to ridicule over the 1:1 thing..... The best of recent years is the Noob V4 as a start. Some will argue that its not even close, but for an OTB its pretty good, however if you can find a Marlin 111 then that will be hands down the closest you will get without going with a franken. As the fellas said above, there is no such thing as 1:1, but these two i mentioned are a good representation of the original.

Welcome back ole chap !

Me too, the only thing I've ever heard referred to as lollipop is the seconds hand of the early SUB 6538, 6536.

I’m in the middle of a 2 year long quest to build a 1655. I have everything now and the movement now doesn’t fit in my phong case lol the retainer grove needs to be teamed out a fraction of a MM to get it to fit. but I also have one of those cArtel cases and they are very good when massaged a bit. thanks for posting your findings. There is a lack of showing what people have done for builds these days to one cut cost and maintain accuracy.

I’m in if this comes through ! @Athaya