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You're welcome. I would definitely try to get this replica without the engraving, which is only a downgrade. The engraving looks nothing like the gen + it's non-symmetric. I don't know if it's possible to get without anymore though.

I dunno about the clasp (and dw) but other than that, the watch looks very genuine to me. Absolutely nothing wrong with the dial, case and cg's, imho.

Datejust and Day-Date? Omega Moonwatch.

Wow, what a beautiful gen Zenith. Is this a new one Richard?

BTR today.

Good luck Gio. I've been thinking about the TAG SLR myself... it's a cool watch.

It's a beauty. Congrats! Speaking of Tudor, it's quite amazing how much the preowned prices have gone up in the past 5-6 years. Snowflakes were always more expensive but 5-6 years ago you were able to buy a full size Tudor Sub in the $1K range. Not going to happen now.

Thanks Joshua. Is this coming with a bracelet later? I think I like this model... especially the blue and black versions.

@sql_pl: Buy Explorer II only if you're planning to keep it. It's much more difficult watch to sell than GMT and Sub, and the preowned prices are considerably lower. But for that price... go for it. Definitely... sounds too good to be true actually (unless "beat up" means "Nanuqinized").

Too bad. How much did it go for?

Just switched to this.

The only thing I dislike on my 16710 is the lack of quickset date. It takes hell of a lot of "rolling" to get the date set correctly. It wouldn't matter if you only had just one watch but for someone like us who have lots of watches it's very annoying. But then again it's understandable for a GMT watch because the date rolls backwards too (when you're travelling through countries and timezones). The adjustable hour hand system in 3185 is pure genius though. I threw the $2K number pretty much from a hat. The seller is stupid if he's willing to go lower than that even without the bracelet (if the watch is fully functional). But now during the recession nothing is impossible... all luxury watch prices have gone down.

Hmm... is the white dial version a complete fantasy model? Looks like the gen (in the reference photo) has silver dial.

Steel color? I didn't see anything... I only saw that EXTREMELY BEAUTIFUL white Explorer II there. Then there was some other big and clumsy looking watch... Seriously... nice comparison. Good work!

Expert, huh? Only when it comes to 16710. And I'm absolutely TERRIBLE with numbers. According to the site I linked they made the transition Master II (reference: 16760) from 1983 to 1988. Lani owns this exact model. It's called "The Fat Lady" because it has 5mm thicker case. I don't know why this model hasn't become more collectible than it is... it's quite fascinating. Technically the 16760 is identical with 16710. I'm certain that the watch case and dial in the pictures are genuine. But from the front I can't tell you the difference between those both models (16760 and 16710). It can be either... but the thin datefont makes me to believe it's 16760. Lani might be able to help here.

Arthur, that GMT looks like the transition model 16760. http://doubleredseadweller.com/gmt_transition.htm

It's genuine. The preowned 16760's go for around ca. $3400-$4000 these days (in good shape). But with broken/missing bracelet & questionable condition... I dunno, but if you can get it for $2K it's probably not a bad deal.

That Navi comes from the same factory as these

Gen collection This is my Rolex collection (I don't have GMT IIc anymore though... traded it to Ebel BTR a while back). Gen GMT, black ExpII whs, white franken ExpII, WM9 Sub v2. Then I have a rep SMP Chrono. Looking for a gen SFSO.

Third Sub in a row. Wearing this today.

Rep: Gen: Opinions?

How could we know? The bidding has just started (6 days, 7 hours left).

Going with my black Explorer II.

Explorer II:

That's really damn nice Lani. I love this dial color. Is this model available with a bracelet?