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Is there someone as generous as to share that info, for the wealth of the collector and ourselves ?

..although... date window is not magnified ?

Can't find a better way to say what I feel... and need !!

Shot at 1969-12-31

I see your point. is this Zenith complicated enough for a daily use ?

That is a GENUINE Rolex Submariner. I posted that pic at RWI

I would go with a brand wich will keep its aftermarket value and prestige . In that budget you can find hundreds of watches from IWC, Blancpain, Breitling, BRM, Bell&Ross, Ebel, Montblanc, Omega, Zenith, Piaget, Tag Heuer, Chopard, Panerai, Girard Perregaux, Ulysse nardin... and so many other swiss brands. Why are you so concerned of people thinking it may be a rep? If people around you knows you wear reps, no matter what watch you wear, they will always think it is a rep... if they don't know... just enjoy it have have joy and peace of soul. Genuines has always someting special that not the best rep can match.

Very nice !! I like it

I take it to my watchsmith and keep my time for rep hunting

don't worry. you will get your watch. Paul communication sometimes is not very good.. sometimes it can take weeks to take your watch, but you will get it. I know it's easy to say and difficult to do.. but be patient.. very much.

Can't agree. Baume & Mercier is considered between the 30 top brands considering their watchmaking history, and there are about 160 brands between those considered as luxurious. B&M has always been working with the highest levels of quality, not only alone, but also when it has been part of Piaget or Cartier groups.

Congratulations for such a nice family. I always loved B&M soft elegance.

If sharing your thoughts, then we would have to say Joshua and Andrew are Scammers compared to Ruby, TTK, Narikaa or Paul... but it seems none here is worried for paying them that much... so, what's the difference then with WM9 ?

Happy to hear you got your toy. TTK has been for years one of the best collectors. He has a great knowledge on how to find high quality products for much less than you would imagine... and yes, he has been always an artist checking people's patient limits ... so i would say TTK is only for mature and well balanced people

I think an SLK would be the best option for a funny fast toy, which also has a beautiful body.

Never said that. Please read what i wrote. HBB is much more expensive in chinese markets than many other reps. I have to agree that there seems to be some kind of "cartel"... probably some dealers got to be shareholders of a factory.. would bet for that If you search well, and have a few contacts, a "noobmariner" can be found there for about $60, and the HBB can be found fo about $230. Very big difference, but also in my opinion an abusive overcharging at some trusted dealers selling prices, when they don't even include shipping. In fact, theses dealers also charge a benefit for the shipping cost (!!!) People can buy from where they want, and you can feel comfortable being scammed just because you are the first having something, or just because of ignorance of a different source. Bestswiss keeps doing very good business, and sure their customers are very happy. George and Josh customers also are. @FxrAndy, you should be cared about what prices things have in their origin, otherwise you wouldn't be able to know when you are paying a right price for something. Information is always important, in any matter of life, as it helps you to make correct decitions. New malls are open at our hand every day. It's up to you to be open enough to their offers and sometimes to take small risks. Anyway, if you feel happy with these overpricing, and you do believe this "super reps" are really super, please keep happy. Reps are not the most important thing in the world, so i won't be for hours trying to convince anybody about anything. I just share the few things i know, please don't use them if you think they are completely useless for your life and let's be happy all of us

Please, don't get tired of price complainings, or our hobby will be done very quickly. When i joined "these" forums, back in 2003 at the old RWG, I already had suffered from those super AAA+ swiss replicas sites wich were charging $1,000 for what i found it was possible to buy for $110. Members from those old times not only were very much concerned about the quality of the reps, but also to be not scamed by unfair prices from super duper dealers. From those times, since 2005, i have been travelling because of job issues to China-Guangzhou twice a year, so i got to see by myself what are the real prices of what you are offered here, and I can assure you that from 8 months ago prices of our dealers here and there are not logical at all. Yes, I have seen ALL those super reps at hand by myself, and can confirm they are not 4 times better done or 4 times more accurate to their genuine cousins or have 4 times better mechanisms than those so many great reps we have for much less money. yes, I still want to be that guy who wants everybody to have the best reps at the best fairy prices, because i think these forums should keep being not only a place to share pictures, but also the place where to find advice and protection for all of us.

The kind of parties I love i can even hear violins

Then I am more than happy you corrected me. I paid $199 for what you call now SUPER REP with an original Swiss ETA movement. What is the use of us in this forum then, when so many of our fellow members agree in paying $400 for the same quality reps ?

It's easy FxrAndy. it has become the time where some of you are surprised to pay $199 for a swiss ETA movement rep, when it should be the regular cost of 90% nice quality reps. I will give you a personal experience: Last December my swiss ETA Seamaster Pro got it's rotor damaged, so I took my watch to the usual jeweler/watchsmith who takes care of my reps from almost 6 years ago. After checking the movement, he adviced me to place a new ETA, as this one had some other spoiled issues beside the rotor. I agreed with him, so he placed a new swiss ETA 2836 for a total amount of

I think you guys are getting to much accustomed to pay $300 for watches that are worth only $200. now i uderstand why some dealers charge us as if we were stupid.

Have to agree with you.. so.. uhmm.. let me think: - $720 + 30 (chinese movement HBB) - $388 + 30 (chinese movement IWC CD) (both very beautiful pieces of junk and forthcoming paperweights) TOTAL-- $1168 (The money I need to spend for a genuine swiss made Steelfish or a genuine swiss made Seamaster, or a genuine Cartier Santos... wich are perfect and will last for a lifetime). Let me think it twice: - $720 + 30 (chinese movement HBB) - $1,058 + 30 (swiss movement IWC CD) (One beautiful piece of junk and one good but easy spotting fake) TOTAL-- $1,838 (The money I need to spend for a genuine swiss Chopard Mille Miglia Chrono or a genuine swiss made Tag Heuer link Chrono.... ) P.S. I would like to thank Andrew (from Trusty watch) and Joshua (from perfect clones) for their generous help, which made me able to have these thoughts.

These super reps prices are absolutely super mad. Mechanical quality and fittings keep exaclty as those reps we bought 5-6 years ago. what are the $400 extra improvements? My 196 from 6 years ago is as well done (if not better) as any of these super HBB, and I payd $250, wich was very expensive for that time, but not as crazy as the $720 asked now. We can even find crazy deals as the so admired Cousteau Divers, wich has wrong blue color in dial and bracelet, but here you find people paying $400 for something that can be spotted as fake from 25 feets. The positive of this is with this prices I already aproached to used genuines market. yes, I can have maybe only 2 watches per year and not 7.. but boy, the quality difference is really worth for the every time smaller price difference.

There are many time pieces wich are pure class, but it seems our chinese manufacturers are mostly concerned in BIG. I miss to see high quality reps of watches with style . ..........