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I joined as a vintage Omega and vintage Rolex guy. I know a lot more about both now. I notice I more or less ignore a watch or brand for ages, maybe years, then think why didn't I notice how cool these are before. I never liked Panerai, but now I'm more and more drawn to them, Patek 3711, same, Royal Oak models have grown on me over the last couple of years, but I blame you and @Legend for that.

Touché my friend

Come on @HaydenM, if you know that share. Who makes the best Sub? Runs away laughing.

@Nanuq 127.0.0.1 Geek humour at it's best?

Macchiato is my morning fuel and if some none Italian coffee shop starts any of that latte macchiato nonsense I feel I have the right to go postal

Hmm. There are several sources and some come and go. You can often find them on eBay, probably the most straight forward source. A tell tale is the phrase "Swiss ink" in the description, whatever the hell that is. There is Minh, who has very nice Daytona dials, but isn't the easiest to communicate with Phong and Jensen are able to get stuff from Vietman, their good stuff is very good, but some of their standard dials don't cut it in my opinion. http://www.vintagewatchesmq.com/ http://jewelryandwatch.com/ https://www.vintagewatchmaker.com/

Hello and welcome to our community. I hope you enjoy your time here,

No worries mate, we were all new members once and some of the senior members showed me patience and kindness when I asked dumb questions or rather when I asked more dumb questions than I do now. I will be delighted if you post a review and you will face nobody's wrath, I'm sure @HaydenM will be along before long to confirm that. As for getting nothing back, well we never know, some seed lands on stony ground, but other seed bears fruit Even the gens aren't flawless. There was a comparison picture yesterday of a genuine and rep Rolex and it was very obvious the rehaut was not as well centred on that particular gen as on that particular rep. Real titanium reps,are quite common actually.

Well if it is available with a bracelet, you could ask any of the dealers if it is available on a strap and if not, you could always look at swapping out the bracelet when you get it. Rep leather straps generally aren't great anyway.

I'm not knowledgeable about TAG, but a quick search found these, Not quite the same, any good? https://puretime03.com/carrera-cal1887-chrono-40mm-ss-white-dial-on-ss-bracelet-a7750.html https://puretime03.com/carrera-1887-chrono-ss-white-numeral-dial-on-ss-bracelet-a7750.html

@shadow-dwell welcome to the forum, a nice thoughtful first post. I hope to hear more from you

@First timer, I don't believe a personal slight was intended by @HaydenM. He is trying to help and as you say his reply has useful information. I remember being new to this rep game and it is a confusing labyrinth. Had a member here called you a moron, I can assure you I would have being having words with them, we pride ourselves on being gentlemanly around here. Anyway let let me try to explain a little. As I said previously these are counterfeit goods. This means sellers do not have normal recourse to law. If someone copies their website and uses a slightly different web address to scam the unwary there is little they can do. If someone orders a watch or several, pays PayPal and then opens a dispute claiming the watches are fake, well they are, they just have to take the lose. Hence most dealers are reluctant to take PayPal, especially from people they haven't previously dealt with. A google search will soon show dozens of sites claiming to sell watches entirely made in Switzerland by former Rolex staff and such. These claims are always untrue. The Swiss authorities would never allow this and any reasonable thought process will lead one to conclude that either you will receive a watch that is not remotely as advertised or you will receive nothing at all and they will just take your money. Both happen, in fact most none Trusted Dealer sites show pictures of genuine watches claiming them to be replicas. One of the conditions the forums impose on Trusted Dealers is that they must only show pictures of the watches they are selling. As to the multiple quotes you have found, I'm sorry to inform you that these reviews are put up by less reputable online dealers and I seriously doubt any of the comments are from genuine people. To be totally frank, we do see some problems with sales from TDs, it is part of why we are here as Mods. Of the serious problems more than half are people new to the hobby who thought they were buying from dealer X, but in fact found a site online that looked like dealer X but was not them. Always copy a link directly from a forum. Of the rest, some are people with unreasonable expectations that have not read much about replicas before jumping in. There are some reps available that are truly amazing, but a $300 rep of a $10000 watch, isn't going to have the same level of finish and detail if examined under magnification. People who expect to fool serious watch experts or authorised dealers are inevitably going to be disappointed and frankly not looking for the same thing from the hobby as most members. Some are genuine issues and we can usually resolve them. To be clear, all reps have flaws if you know enough to spot them, in part knowing is a fun aspect of the hobby. Many modern reps are very, very hard to distinguish as such on the wrist. I would recommend reading about any rep you are interested in on the forums, so you know what to expect. I hope this helps. We do genuinely try to help and welcome new members.

Service dial and hands on that @Nanuq? Have you still got that Milsub?

He sounds like he is the replacement for Tonnywatches that we need. All information will be greedily received. If we get two or three guys happy with him, maybe I can open a discussion and see if we can get a new supplier for the forum. Worth a try.

From whom did you get the case?

Not a silly question at all https://rwg.cc/classifieds/ in the top right corner is a click box for creating a new advert. Unfortunately none VIP members are limited to sales of $199 or less. Also you need two or more positive feedback to request PayPal gift. If I can help you list or in any other matter send me a PM, it is what we are here for.

A couple guys reported issues with WSO bezels, maybe ST or Phong?

I have bought from Perfect clones, Puretime, Trusty and several others and so far not had a problem. It is worth bearing in mind these are counterfeit goods and you are not going to get an Amazon level of service. I have been very lucky with Customs and never had a major problem. I had a $2000 order from Phong got stopped and they insisted I paid €20 Custom fee. I tell you I couldn't throw the money at them fast enough? Other than that nothing at all. I have realistic expectations and if a watch works right out of the package without a clean and service I take it as an unexpected plus, not an automatic expectation.

Welcome to the community. www.puretime03.com www.pf-818.com and these https://rwg.cc/forum/230-watches-clothing-parts-accessories/

I agree with you. I've seen reps that have been vintagised to the point that they look like they have received a direct nuclear strike. They can look very interesting and I am not total opposed to them but convincing they are not. Over polish and faded insert is the way to go if convincing is your aim. Personally I like watches that make me smile. A convincing rep, a nice gen a cartoonish aging or a Seiko built from scrap parts, if I look down at it on my wrist and smile it's okay for me.

Well if you follow that argument to it's conclusion, whatever it's merits or otherwise, then you should be on TRF ranting about fakes including TC

It looks very pretty once the snow clears. I'm not a snow person - I don't even like it on Christmas cards. Maurice Wilks offspring from Solihull actually looks very at home there

My friend @docthor hits the nail square on the head and wearing the current reps would drive me nuts, but to put it in perspective the people that would know fall into two tiny groups that overlap. Us and vintage Rolex obsessives. I would hazard a guess that together that is a very tiny fraction of one percent of the population. If the watch looks suitablely aged, most will have no idea or really care. Remember guys, we have a very rare sickness and even to me one watch looks pretty much like another from six feet away.

Jeez, that guy must be like sixty feet tall????