i totally agree the PO is a better watch all around than a rolex sub. i had both gens and had to sell the rolex due to no wrist time. not less wrist time....NO wrist time! the AR, the bracelet construction, the weight, the hands, the lume, the HE valve, the polished/brushed case, every aspect makes the gen sub "cheap" in comparison! the one thing i will say the rolex has a better resale. so what does that mean? buy a used gen PO for $1700 and you will get no better bang for your buck anywhere!