Nanuq Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 I like how this guy thinks! Modded Sea Dweller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiker01 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 ahhhhh.....me thinks I could do better than that...or TJ or jmb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnBeever Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 That would be called ‘lightly vinatgised with gen. parts’ on the RWG sales forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 :bangin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Hmmm, seems a bit beat-up for four grand! All I need is a dimensioned drawing, SOMEBODY!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demsey Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Looks like it were caught in fire? Who would bid this high for this? Someone is shilling the auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnBeever Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 If you have a gen. middle case and case back you have the makings of a ‘gen’ 1665. Worth around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Looks like it were caught in fire? Who would bid this high for this? Someone is shilling the auction. Exactly, with the amount of heat that watch has taken I would be very surprised if the case isn't warped. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfreeman420 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Also it appears to have a black datewheel. Never seen that on a Rolex before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Also it appears to have a black datewheel. Never seen that on a Rolex before. Apply enough heat and you will. Even the red gears are black. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 If you have a gen. middle case and case back you have the makings of a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Ah but if you find you can't get another movement in there (in fact need a cole chisel to get the old one out) because the case is warped, then the whole thing would have been an expensive experiment yes? Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Good point, Ken, I guess it's kinda like gambling- all or nothing, no guts no glory! The description does say the caseback screws in easliy, tho. But second look at the movement and it is obviously cheese- melted that is! Of course, I'm very happy just to watch from the sidelines! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demsey Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Ha! My thinking exactly. Don't know if you have to buy another movement- that one looks ruff ruff, need a decent GW dial, tritium hands, bezel assembly and T-39- not a superdome, but the later flatter one. Getting all gen Rolex parts would be the trick. A 93150 w/ the 585 end pieces and you're all set. Buy it for $5K Spend for parts $5K Sell it for $14K $4K profit That's what's running the price up- those GD unscrupulous franken builders! Oh. Ok. It makes more sense then. But not much. Ah but if you find you can't get another movement in there (in fact need a cole chisel to get the old one out) because the case is warped, then the whole thing would have been an expensive experiment yes? Ken That's my thinking too (yYou may want to reconsider your thinkng Ken ) This case may never pass a pressure test again. There are enough guys that follow eBay here, we'll see if this shows up again in the near future. The case cleaned up serial '5766950' I never gave it much thought before, but are there ties between the 'case' and the OEM movement issued with it, by serial number? Like automobiles? In the original paperwork? No? Then any 'gen' you buy could have a retrofitted movement installed? From an entirely different model altogether? Yes? Who would think to check before sale of 'gen'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted November 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Good question, Dems. On my 1680 the serial numbers are separate and should be noted on any service paperwork. Case 54477** and movement D5123**. That information was actually needed within the last year, as the person I got it from swore up and down that it used to have a quick-set date. But that movement age compares favorably to the case age by serial number, and that movement series does not quickset. Useful, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted November 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Exactly, with the amount of heat that watch has taken I would be very surprised if the case isn't warped. You say "warped" like it's a bad thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 If you have a gen. middle case and case back you have the makings of a ‘gen’ 1665. Worth around £7,000. The problem is that most of the value is in the dial & movement, both of which are fried, in the literal sense. The dial is a write-off & the movement is probably likewise so. That leaves the case, which, even on a Saturday with the wind in your back, your favorite girl on your arm & a winning lottery ticket in your pocket, is not worth 4 grand. In its present condition, it might be worth a gamble for $500 - $1,000. But $4k is just plain Nanuq - Repeat after me - warped = bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thogaa Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Was that on WTC or Columbia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJo35 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 I've watched this auction from the beginning, and it jumped too quickly. Definitely shilled. Anyone notice the polished top sides of the lugs? Something very odd here... Arson is an old game to cover something up A correct case and caseback in that range serial would certainly be worth where the item is now bidding. Above that, and it just wouldn't be worth it, and in this case, certainly a poor gamble at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoast68 Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 "This auction is for a great looking vintage Rolex case and movement." :bangin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 You say "warped" like it's a bad thing! I was expecting to see a pic of stove cooked sub here. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shundi Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Nanuq- I can't believe you're bidding $4000< for this!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhooq Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Don't any of you recognize the incredibly rare Rolex Hell-Dweller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thogaa Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Don't any of you recognize the incredibly rare Rolex Hell-Dweller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted November 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Nanuq- I can't believe you're bidding $4000< for this!! Hey, when you recognize the work of a true Master you need to get it into your collection. I was expecting to see a pic of stove cooked sub here. Ahhhhhh, you don't know the whole story there, do you? That little experiment started on the stove, but I quickly realized I didn't have enough BTUs to do a proper test. So I went to Plan "B" and melted that sapphire crystal in the process! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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