TwoTone Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Seems that there have been a higher than usual number of individual scams lately... Not just here on RWG but on all the boards... The common thread I've been noticing is that they're being perpetrated by newer members... Watching one closely right now that isn't looking very good by a guy that just joined the forum in December... Please use common sense when trading and buying... Also, don't hesitate to vet the member... If they're not willing to let you vet them, then walk away from the transaction... When we vet high dollar transaction requests, here are the things we look at ~ Verify home address & telephone number [both of these should be in the their name]Check references [don't just ask for them, but actually talk to the peeps via PM]Get their eBay ID and review their feedback - then send them a message via eBay to confirm it's themAsk for other forum ID's and check them out - like TZ, etc... Don't be taken... Be smart... "Caveat Emptor" - Let the buyer beware Double T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Please use common sense when trading and buying... If they're not willing to let you vet them, then walk away from the transaction... Don't be taken... Be smart... Wiser words were never spoken. And that we have our mod team actively overseeing transactions for the good of our members goes above and beyond IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Thanks for the "heads up" TT. One can never be to careful these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Thanks,I think we all need a little reminder every now and then to remain vigilant, What some of lose sight of is there are folks out there who would rather make a dollar dishonestly than make 2 dollars honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shundi Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Wiser words were never spoken. And that we have our mod team actively overseeing transactions for the good of our members goes above and beyond IMO. Agreed and agreed!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Well said, Double T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiker01 Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 DT.......PM sent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhitesox Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Hike I hope that doesn't mean you have been taken mate Thanks for the heads up TT these scammers really get my blood boiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Bumping this great words of wisdom Too many members hoping aboard to sell their goods.. members are thinking of saving money and getting burned in the process.. we need to stick together and not be an easy mark AC/Lani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrippa Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Excellent advice and a most timely reminder. Much appreciated TT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 great advice. Warnings like this are always good reminders for all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumum Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I have not sold anything for years but have made my first member to member purchase after two years. All went very well. To keep it smooth, we have to stay sharp. So I don't think it out of line to ask for some info with who you are dealing with (be it the seller or buyer), Good to have threads like this occasionally to keep this hobby safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelizer Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Nice advice/ reminder TT! One can never be too careful these days.. Let's all look out for each other and bump this thread every now and then.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmo Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I joined in December and have a FS thread at the moment so i hope you dont mean me. Its terrible to see people out to take advantage of others in a community that has been built on helping others enjoy a shared hobby. As an honest seller i dont see any problems with providing appropriate levels of information about myself if i expect people to hand over money to me. Anyone who does - probably shouldnt be trusted ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 This does not help when the peep scamming you is a 06 member but good advices i use the above when buying on TZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakemaster Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Who are we talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxman Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 This does not help when the peep scamming you is a 06 member but good advices i use the above when buying on TZ. Thats very true Dani, that one suprised everyone. It just go's to show you that even If a member has good feedback and has been around for a long time, thats still no 100% guarantee that all will work out well Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horologik Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Good Advice! Hike, i hope you didn't get scammed! Don't worry i will send your Spin tomorrow. You know where I work anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooky Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 @ Double T: isn't it something to think about putting your post in a sort of 'sticky' part in the trading zone? As I see here in this thread, most members who write something here are long time members or vip/platinum, who most likely will not get scammed as easily as newer members with less knowledge about reps. Just my 2 cents.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCraig Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Agree and agree; so what happened to the feedback system that disappeared when the board went down? At least some some record of positive transactions. Personally, I just wait for bwhitesox, hikeUSA, hackR, eunomians, and a couple others to sell, don't even care what watch it is. And at this point I will eat a couple of my watches before I go thru the sale nightmare. And please give this baby a sticky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvn Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Do we know who that person is? if so we need to disclose the info so others won't get hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panther917 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 What about a "feedback rating" system like RG has started using? Not sure how it is actually working out over there but it is something that some varioation might be of benefit if it is not to tough to implement on the backend. Although new to RWG, I have bought and sold on Ebay for 13 years and value my 100% feedback rating greatly and only buy/sell to people with a solid track record. As a noob, It is starting to get easier for me to know who is on the up & up here on this forum (my favorite btw....) and have purchased about 20 reps from trusted dealers and members. Luckily, all have been great watches (although some better than others) but I'm learning that when someone like HackR or Excelonman sells me a watch, I know it's tip-top, and know what to expect from trusted dealers as well. That just comes with trial /error but if we had a feedback system of some sort that showed on your Profile name, similar to a Reputaton rating or such at other forums, but limited to buy/sell ratings, it might help us all to have a quick glance at the level of ethics we are dealing with in that person. Maybe even a star system rated on: 1) Quality as described 2) Prompt and well packed shipping 3) Overall satisfaction Not even sure if any of that is possible, just a suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackR Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 thanks for the kind words, JC and panther... i don't explicitly state it, but some of us offer money back and/or work with buyers on sales if there's an issue...sometimes, what may be a hairline is a big deal to someone...sometimes what i think is dust is a tiny scratch/scuff...i don't microscop a piece i sell nor can i describe every mark...and there's always marks...anyhow, i wear my pieces - most of them - so there's bound to be "imperfections"...but everyone has a different toleration level...i try to stick with folks i've dealt with and/or members i've "seen around" that i feel are members and not transients...this is a community afterall, i believe and support that!... i also let members know that i'm more than willing to reveal my name and address and contact info...especially for higher priced pieces...learned this from Hike...we became friends because we spoke directly on a piece...and now i'm very pleased i can call him up on a quiet friday night when i need advice on how to toast a PAM dial just for fun!... with anything - due diligence and a degree of educated gut feel... now panther - truth is....the Oris coming your way doesn't have a movement...did you want one?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 @ panther we were one of the first to have a feedback system and it worked well (when people took the time to use it) but unfortunately it was a third party add-on to the board software and tied to an older version so when we upgraded the board software we lost support for the feedback system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTone Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 @ Double T: isn't it something to think about putting your post in a sort of 'sticky' part in the trading zone? Just my 2 cents.. And a good 2 cents it is Hooky... Once it's ran its course here in GD I'll move it and sticky it... Thanks! Do we know who that person is? if so we need to disclose the info so others won't get hurt. The loop is designed to be a warning in general... However, this loop is one of the more recent issues that prompted my post... Double T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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