irolexu Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 I have no expertise in the vintage area but am really wanting a 1680 sub and do not know really where to start. I would like to get one that's 1:1 so i can put gen parts on it. Any advice would be great especially recommendations on whome to get my 1680 from to begin with wantin to have it really aged and a lot of wear and tear shown on it so looking forward to the great advice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchguy2 Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 It all depends on what you want to spend! Budget base would be PT's 1680. Medium priced base is still the MBK/MBW 1680 Narikaa can source. Premium price base would be Yuki/NT 1680 case. I think they all are a good starting base for a real nice almost 1:1 1680. Advantage the MBW 1680 has is that it already has a decent dial and hands alltough they need a relume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 It all depends on what you want to spend! Budget base would be PT's 1680. Medium priced base is still the MBK/MBW 1680 Narikaa can source. Premium price base would be Yuki/NT 1680 case. I think they all are a good starting base for a real nice almost 1:1 1680. Advantage the MBW 1680 has is that it already has a decent dial and hands alltough they need a relume. if your going with the MBK youre going to be replacing a lot if you buy the complete watch, movement, dial, and bracelet, just buy the case set. as someone whose bought and sold a lot of mbk watches and parts i can say the movements (even though most are gen) need over hauling, and the date needs realigning, not to mention its a 28.8k so if youre going for 1:1 you really only want the case if you plan on bringing it further than out of the box and intend to mod it, so save the money and put the saved cash towards upgraded parts. if you want out of the box piece you can wear for $200 buy the pt but IMO it is flawed in stock condition, if you plan on modding it choose a different watch yuki quality is inconsistent and would really only consider it if youre going with a gen movement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 I wouldnt buy a PT1680 if you are wanting to add gen parts. Its a budget watch to begin with. Thats like buying a $400 car and putting $8000 wheels on it and a $4000 stereo. If you want to build any kind of franken watch it should be MBW or better. You can take a PT1680 and turn it into a nice daily beater don get me wrong... I guess it depends how far you are planning to go. If you want to do more than just a gen crown and tube, then you may as well start with a good case set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Advantage the MBW 1680 has is that it already has a decent dial and hands alltough they need a relume. LOL, The one thing ByTor taught me was just how bad the MBW red sub dial really was. The MBW white dial is fine, but to the trained eye, the red dial is terrrible. Add to that the fact the MBW case is really a 5513 case and won't take a decent gen or aftermarket 1680 dial w/o serious mods, building a decent red sub w/ an MBW case becomes a challenge. MBW sub dial- 26.2mm Gen/good aftermarket 1680 dial- 26.5mm MBW case takes the 26.2mm dial but not the 26.5mm dial Do you shave a decent dial down .3mm or enlarge the case to take a 26.5mm dial? And I love the old original MBW 1680 SN- L341,xxx. Granted the 5513 was produced until the L serial #, circa 1989 or so, but the 1680 sub was only built til c.1980 and 6 mill SN. So, if you're going to buy an MBW 1680 sub, better get a white dial! And you'll still spend $300-400 modding it, but at that point you'll have a very nice rep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 the old style MBW 5513 case fits the mbw 1680 dial nicely there are only two dials that mbk seems to make nicely enough to use, even when being pretty picky: 1680 white and the 1665 white. you gotta factor in the yuki case is also about $350 MORE than an mbw case set AND you have to buy an additional eta ring for $40 if youre not going to be using a gen movement. as i see it the BIGGEST problem with making vintage pieces is getting a correct bracelet. im thinking it becomes a combination of the noobmariner bracelet, a modded MBW 93150 and a gen clasp, with either gen 580s or modded PTs (compress them) or WSOs MBW 93150 with modded connecting end link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted September 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Sounds great guys I need a good slate to start on so you guys agree that a white sub is best to start off with? Does that sub have the really large date window? Also what should I expect to pay for a good slate white submariner!! great info guys really learning a lot here on which approach I need to take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchguy2 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Sorry for the confusion but I was indeed referring to the MBW 1680 white dial. Never had the MBW red dial for reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Sounds great guys I need a good slate to start on so you guys agree that a white sub is best to start off with? Does that sub have the really large date window? Also what should I expect to pay for a good slate white submariner!! great info guys really learning a lot here on which approach I need to take depends what you want in it. MBW case $190 ingod dial or mbk dial $140 / $80 respectively clarks top hat $30 2846 + servicing $230 datewheel $10-$30 insert: service gen or pmwf+ofrei pearl $90-$150 gen crown $30-$70 WSO tube $25 hands $30 2mm bars $6 bracelet??? they all suck, you need to make a hybrid to get it right. assembly costs ???? dont expect it to be cheap or easy, given the above ingredients it would make a truly magnificent watch but you could still spend more $$ and take it a lot further Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted September 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 You think for 1300 dollars I can make a really nice 1680? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 You think for 1300 dollars I can make a really nice 1680? thats about what ive sunk into a glossy 5513 franken. only thing that is not gen is the case (MBW) and 1/3 of the bracelet, movement is ETA 1680 costs slightly more if youre mixing in gen parts + you got the messy date alignment, i also did all the work myself so there was no paying anyone else to mod my case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sishac Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 So you can buy a MBW case by itself, or do you have to buy the whole watch and part it out? Can Reg get just the caseset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gplracer Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 So you can buy a MBW case by itself, or do you have to buy the whole watch and part it out? Can Reg get just the caseset? I would like to know as well. I am trying to decide on building a 1680 or a 1675. Comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rymeister Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 I would like to know as well. I am trying to decide on building a 1680 or a 1675. Comments? I emailed narikka/reg last night and he said to me he doesn't deal with parts but he can source mbk red 1680 subs. Think this is the route I ay take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1680 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 @highoeyazmuhudee: could you please tell me a bit about the modded link. Can't send you a PN. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 I emailed narikka/reg last night and he said to me he doesn't deal with parts but he can source mbk red 1680 subs. Think this is the route I ay take @highoeyazmuhudee: could you please tell me a bit about the modded link. Can't send you a PN. Thanks you can get whatever you like from MBK, its up to the dealer selling it to you if they want to sell you a whole watch or just a part, one is obviously more worth their time since it can command a higher margin of return. @1680 you mean on the bracelet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1680 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 @high.: yes it is one thing rep makers never get correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 @high.: yes it is one thing rep makers never get correct. it was custom made by myself from an MBW 93150 bracelet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robaer Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 it was custom made by myself from an MBW 93150 bracelet. Interesting. Can you tell us more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain swoop Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) Alligoat posts that the MBW case is realy a 5513 case. I want to put a nice 5513 together, I like the no date Subs. SO the MBK would make a good base for a 5513 with a dial swap? Edited February 6, 2012 by captain swoop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Simply yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cousin_hub Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 A lot of close up pictures in this gen review : http://www.thewatchobserver.fr/-montres-de-luxe-et-de-prestige-guide-d-achat-essai-revue-comparatif-photos-prix-du-neuf-/-Rolex-Submariner-Date-1680-.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Alligoat posts that the MBW case is realy a 5513 case. I want to put a nice 5513 together, I like the no date Subs. SO the MBK would make a good base for a 5513 with a dial swap? Yes, MBW 5513 case set, Ingod 5513 dial and a gen T19 crystal. I have these parts right now and getting ready for my build. Mine will be a 5512 though. All I need is a good 2846 movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I will love to build a gilt one one day W0lf. Can't wait to see progress pics of your build. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 If you want to see how close the MBK/MBW Can be have a look at the comparison in my sig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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