dimar Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 clkcadet - I think you are on to a good suggestion. BK is the master. he came to market with the TW and it looks incredible - especially the magnificent dial. I am yet to touch and see the TC Sub, but I am confident in saying that the dial will not hold a candle to the time spent creating the DW and the Dial that BK has delivered on. I am excited to see the engraving. From the shots it looks pretty nice, but its not accurate. In a previous post you can see a side by side. It is to large, and the depth most likely will create an issue with the removal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
its_urabus Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 I do not believe BKs dial will fit the TC case. it is too big. I know it does not fit the sean case, which is almost exact to the TC case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcher Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 The engraving is not correct compared to gen but better than previous efforts. Needs to be rubbed down slightly as it looks too deep and pronounced in the pics and if it is the v3 case with better CG then I have already seen it in the flesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 I am done posting in this thread, I will respect TC privacy and wait for what I order. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidhle007 Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 I do not believe BKs dial will fit the TC case. it is too big. I know it does not fit the sean case, which is almost exact to the TC case. That depends on whether this is a WM9 case or not. The WM9 V3 could take a gen dial AND a rep dial and if this is machined the same way you'll be in luck. If it's like the Sean case you'll need a gen or gen-diameter dial to fit. This is one of those things we'll have to wait and see on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bklm1234 Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 (edited) I recommend trying to get only the v serial at this point. The clear rehaut I got (from a different source) still has the flaw (crown hole area overly cut). George made the v serials last. So your odds are better to get a real v4. It's not foolproof because all the different rehauts can still be a mix of v3's and v4's. I'm just saying to increase your odds of getting a real v4. Another point is TC posted a 2678-2 in the case, crown stem still not fitted to the movement. It raises the question how many different cases he has. 2678-2 is a thicker movement which was used in the v2. So that case may be different (may be a v2), or the 2678-2 will be force-fitted in the v4 case (the stem will be bent once fitted on the movement through the crown hole). Anyway, it's the safest for you to ask for v serial and v serial only because v2 didn't get the v serial stamping at all. @The_Rymeister: "Why do you need to mod it?" We haven't had word this exact case can take a rep dial for ETA yet. Maybe he did, correct me if I'm wrong. I asked TC to fit his ETA dial in but haven't heard back. He posted a ETA dial on a 2678-2 in this case. If that's the same case as the one in this post, then the answer is yes it takes ETA dial. If this case really can't take ETA dial, you will need to mod the dial, although not mod the case. On the v3's, I didn't actually mod the case, I just put on my custom tube that let me create the needed clearance between the crown and the body/bezel. Another thing is, the case body may be perfect (which I hope very much so because I'm lazy by nature), but the bezel assembly may still be the same old wm9 bezel assembly. I did have to trim the backs of the inserts so they could fit in the bezel bay properly, so they were a little recessed in the bezel bay, not floating. My new way is to trim the retaining ring which is better IMO because you don't want to trim the back of a gen insert. I much rather leave gen parts unmodded. I hope this clears why I charge more. It's for work/mods that I have to do. Some people seem to not realize this point about my pricing. Now you know. But that is not to say I'm non-profit. My prices are always the same as other dealers' + my labor. If I don't do more than the next dealer on a given watch, my price is practically the same as the next dealer's. If I have to do mods, I always pack a great value in the price so I give you no reason to do the mods yourself from the price standpoint. bk Edited February 12, 2012 by bklm1234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tucker Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Guys, one thing that this forum allows for is annonimity. I suggest that we all stop trying to vengfully look into this guys life and wait. He has created a buzz like no other and it makes sense that for now we all just chill a little. TC comes up with a great idea, take a multitude of pieces from different vendors to create another option for rep lovers. he may have come to us a little early, he may have been eager to show his findings, but is that a reason to bash a busy man? Plus, he is not a watchmaker from my understanding this is still a new field for the guy. I suggest we all cool our jets and let him get his thoughts together. I'm certainly not trying to vengefully look into TC's life. However, I would just suggest that we all exercise a little extra caution before we pee all over ourselves. There seem to be several new members with few to no previous posts posting for the first time to defend TC and his work on this board and on other boards. I spend very little time posting on this particular board but I am active on other boards. I just find it odd that all of a sudden new members are posting out of the blue to defend TC. Further, this is certainly not a "new field" for TC. His pictures and detailed posts clearly demonstrate that this is not his first experience with the replica watch world. His presentation through various posts is a very clear and calculated process to generate interest in his new product(s). With that said I agree that what we should do (and all we really can do) is wait and see if he delivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_rymeister Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Cheers bk for the info much appreciated. I don't think your subs are overpriced at all I believe in the world we live in you get what you pay for.ill be honest with you the reason why this case interests me is the future potential to add gen parts, I've got a gen insert to fit but need some one to fit it hopefully it doesn't need modding like you have pointed out to fit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clkcadet Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 (edited) I recommend trying to get only the v serial at this point. The clear rehaut I got (from a different source) still has the flaw (crown hole area overly cut). George made the v serials last. So your odds are better to get a real v4. It's not foolproof because all the different rehauts can still be a mix of v3's and v4's. I'm just saying to increase your odds of getting a real v4. Another point is TC posted a 2678-2 in the case, crown stem still not fitted to the movement. It raises the question how many different cases he has. 2678-2 is a thicker movement which was used in the v2. So that case may be different (may be a v2), or the 2678-2 will be force-fitted in the v4 case (the stem will be bent once fitted on the movement through the crown hole). Anyway, it's the safest for you to ask for v serial and v serial only because v2 didn't get the v serial stamping at all. @The_Rymeister: "Why do you need to mod it?" We haven't had word this exact case can take a rep dial for ETA yet. Maybe he did, correct me if I'm wrong. I asked TC to fit his ETA dial in but haven't heard back. He posted a ETA dial on a 2678-2 in this case. If that's the same case as the one in this post, then the answer is yes it takes ETA dial. If this case really can't take ETA dial, you will need to mod the dial, although not mod the case. On the v3's, I didn't actually mod the case, I just put on my custom tube that let me create the needed clearance between the crown and the body/bezel. Another thing is, the case body may be perfect (which I hope very much so because I'm lazy by nature), but the bezel assembly may still be the same old wm9 bezel assembly. I did have to trim the backs of the inserts so they could fit in the bezel bay properly, so they were a little recessed in the bezel bay, not floating. My new way is to trim the retaining ring which is better IMO because you don't want to trim the back of a gen insert. I much rather leave gen parts unmodded. I hope this clears why I charge more. It's for work/mods that I have to do. Some people seem to not realize this point about my pricing. Now you know. But that is not to say I'm non-profit. My prices are always the same as other dealers' + my labor. If I don't do more than the next dealer on a given watch, my price is practically the same as the next dealer's. If I have to do mods, I always pack a great value in the price so I give you no reason to do the mods yourself from the price standpoint. bk BK, you are always a gentleman and straight up. I don't think anybody would ever question your pricing. I personally have had a few watches from you and they are nothing short of amazing and I can see the value and justification of your pricing I currently own your TW Sub, and I do not even know where there is room for improvement other than the crown position which I do not care about. The thing that everyone has to realize are these small details that BK is mentioning. If TC does not know of these small issues they can become a problem. Hence my opinion of some sort of collaboration Edited February 12, 2012 by clkcadet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 i agree, not to mention he has two gen subs one of which being an LV and hes not afraid to disassemble them I wondered about that too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 BK: Thanks for shedding some light on the use of the 2678 mvt. I asked if it'll fit a gen with correct crown height, will the 2678 mounted in it offer the same gen crown height. The answer was yes......and I left it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correctime Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Guys, one thing that this forum allows for is annonimity. I suggest that we all stop trying to vengfully look into this guys life and wait. He has created a buzz like no other and it makes sense that for now we all just chill a little. TC comes up with a great idea, take a multitude of pieces from different vendors to create another option for rep lovers. he may have come to us a little early, he may have been eager to show his findings, but is that a reason to bash a busy man? Plus, he is not a watchmaker from my understanding this is still a new field for the guy. I suggest we all cool our jets and let him get his thoughts together. You have a valid point here, Brother. But having a couple gen pieces is one thing. Having the balls and knowledge to disassemble them, mic and swap parts and then reassemble....if he's new to the field he's a fast learner and has much courage or alot of money. Take that bezel puller for example...those aren't cheap. But none of this is really important. I'm just anxious to see a completed watch delivered and see where this new development takes us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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2671 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Another point is TC posted a 2678-2 in the case, crown stem still not fitted to the movement. It raises the question how many different cases he has. 2678-2 is a thicker movement which was used in the v2. So that case may be different (may be a v2), or the 2678-2 will be force-fitted in the v4 case (the stem will be bent once fitted on the movement through the crown hole). Anyway, it's the safest for you to ask for v serial and v serial only because v2 didn't get the v serial stamping at all. bk Yes, the 2678 is a day-date movement and thicker, if you study TC's 2678 fitted case closely you will notice, it has not had the so-called " movement receiving hole" (the half-moon arc at 8'o clock position) for mounting screws to slip in. Its more likely a V2 case made for 2836 with low crown position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcher Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 My tracking went live today so maybe he has been struggling to get things shipped out. I'm sure he has a life other than this board and it's sometimes demanding members! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 It looks like we are in business, there is activity in the usps website, As soon as the part get here I will report back. stay tuned. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zeleni kukuruz Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 My tracking went live today so maybe he has been struggling to get things shipped out. I'm sure he has a life other than this board and it's sometimes demanding members! Yeha thats it. I talked to him today, everything is on tracks he is just very bizy. O yes part two will be up soon also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgematic1 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 finally some good news on those orders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clkcadet Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Yeha thats it. I talked to him today, everything is on tracks he is just very bizy. O yes part two will be up soon also Freakin great news! Good to hear someone is in contact with TC. Now it's just a matter of what you guys receive. I just wanted a darn bracelet from him to start but no response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Freakin great news! Good to hear someone is in contact with TC. Now it's just a matter of what you guys receive. I just wanted a darn bracelet from him to start but no response It is good news. Btw he's online at RG right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolchu001 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 My tracking went live today so maybe he has been struggling to get things shipped out. I'm sure he has a life other than this board and it's sometimes demanding members! Hmm looks like TC's gf has been sending orders for those outside of the US. My tracking is still in the label creation stage (mine is a US order). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcher Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Yeah I'm uk based. I have a case set and bracelet and dw overlay for another project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giobo Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Good luck to all guys!!!i like to hear good news!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifter Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Hmm looks like TC's gf has been sending orders for those outside of the US. My tracking is still in the label creation stage (mine is a US order). Same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tucker Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Hmm looks like TC's gf has been sending orders for those outside of the US. My tracking is still in the label creation stage (mine is a US order). How do you know it's his GF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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