panerai153 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 Thanks very much for the information. Sadly, I'm one of those who lost their 375.00 USD payment. as for me, I've written it off long ago. Another risk of dealing with reps.
cougar1 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 Thanks for the update BK, it certainly ties up some loose ends. Amazing how things can change so suddenly.
Londonboy Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 Bert, thanks for the update mate, very interesting imho. Thankfully I never had any money with them when that was all going down.
bklm1234 Posted May 17, 2012 Author Report Posted May 17, 2012 I forgot about this. On April 25, 2010, on explaining why so much delay in shipping my components, George wrote "My cousin Allan was poisoned by carbon monoxide on Mar 27. He hasn't wake up since the accident and is like a vegetable since. We're the only two family members in this business. So, I have to take care of his part as well". Allan was the one who took care of shipping things. When I talked to the rep of the current company, I asked if the young Ku had a cousin that was poisoned by carbon monoxide, he said yes immediately. Said he's still in a vegetative state. I hate so much to accept George was the young Ku. But all the data seems to point to one conclusion. The rep made a comment that sent shivers to my spine. To paraphrase him: "I don't know if this business is cursed or the Ku's were cursed". Anyway, I worked about 2 years with George. I was mad at him for a while that he didn't reply my emails. Then I told myself George must have been very burnt out from operating wm9 after a slur of unfortunate events, the old Ku passed away, his cousin was poisoned, his warehouse got flooded, his bracelet-smith retired. I'm sure the customers never stopped mail-bombing him. It's totally understandable he would have said "enough is enough, I don't want to deal with this. I would take a back seat and just make molds for other factories". That was my theory. I was awaiting his comeback to making watches. Now this? Not the kind of closure I want but a closure after all. -bk
watcher Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 I remember Allan and what happened to him and did not realise he had survived that! My last payment and email from George was around that time which was also around the time that the bi metal subs were going out to customers along with lv's. A good trip in more ways than one Bert! Very sad end to a visionary family.
correctime Posted May 17, 2012 Report Posted May 17, 2012 I'm sorry to hear of the possible loss of a good friend B. It must have been a very emotional moment upong hearing of such. As well as having to write this Thread. Your sharing that is greatly appreciated..
Dave123 Posted May 18, 2012 Report Posted May 18, 2012 With all due respect,BK, "Heres what happened to wm9" as a title to a thread about this subject from a guy that just spent 2 weeks in Asia is a bit of a stretch. They will cry ya a river buddy,been around them and am married into them,most of my life. "Heres my thoughts" would be far more appropriate. You have no idea after 2 weeks what the truth is about what happened. Even 2 years would still be questionable if your an outsider. Anyway,it is what it is,sad story of a remote possibility.
Star69 Posted May 18, 2012 Report Posted May 18, 2012 so WM9 is officially removed from the SCAMMER list on the forums am i miss something ?
rrari1 Posted May 18, 2012 Report Posted May 18, 2012 so WM9 is officially removed from the SCAMMER list on the forums am i miss something ? I guess so, but he still wont be able to sell here.
ExtraExtra Posted May 18, 2012 Report Posted May 18, 2012 Tragedy befell this family...it seemed like once fatal accident to another....unfortunate events...but good to know i guess that the product lives on.
Star69 Posted May 18, 2012 Report Posted May 18, 2012 Mao Zedong is also dead and his product lives on
spooky driver Posted May 18, 2012 Report Posted May 18, 2012 Mao Zedong is also dead and his product lives on 毛泽东 It's Chairman Mao to you.....no respect
Star69 Posted May 18, 2012 Report Posted May 18, 2012 毛泽东 It's Chairman Mao to you.....no respect okay Mao [censored] Communist
frankt Posted May 18, 2012 Report Posted May 18, 2012 IIRC, this "dealer" was originally regarded as a scammer when he first emerged....Then a while later he became a venerated "superbuilder".......then a bunch of folks got $crewed on a prospective build deal.......Now he's dead or catatonic.... If you spend enough time around the rep world, you'll hear it all.....Won't you Neil...??? :pimp:
bklm1234 Posted May 19, 2012 Author Report Posted May 19, 2012 (edited) With all due respect,BK, "Heres what happened to wm9" as a title to a thread about this subject from a guy that just spent 2 weeks in Asia is a bit of a stretch. They will cry ya a river buddy,been around them and am married into them,most of my life. "Heres my thoughts" would be far more appropriate. You have no idea after 2 weeks what the truth is about what happened. Even 2 years would still be questionable if your an outsider. Anyway,it is what it is,sad story of a remote possibility. @Dave123: What stretch? Some smartass you are. Edited May 19, 2012 by bklm1234
bwhitesox Posted May 19, 2012 Report Posted May 19, 2012 I mean it's a pretty standard heard it all before story really so who knows what the truth is but someone ran away with a load of cash.
TwoTone Posted May 20, 2012 Report Posted May 20, 2012 IIRC, this "dealer" was originally regarded as a scammer when he first emerged....Then a while later he became a venerated "superbuilder".......then a bunch of folks got $crewed on a prospective build deal.......Now he's dead or catatonic.... If you spend enough time around the rep world, you'll hear it all.....Won't you Neil...??? :pimp: @Frank You fookin' rock... M
TheBattler Posted May 21, 2012 Report Posted May 21, 2012 @Frank You fookin' rock... M With all due respect, what can you expect from a 75 year old Floridian that collects reps?! LOL Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2
frankt Posted May 21, 2012 Report Posted May 21, 2012 With all due respect, what can you expect from a 75 year old Floridian that collects reps?! LOL Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2 Hey ....Hey.....I'm only 70!!!!...
automatico Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 I have heard a variation of this story... A friend knew a fellow from China that lived in NYC who sent him all kinds of stuff for 4 or 5 years...designer style handbags, cheapo fashion watches, jewelry etc...no replica trademark items but he could get them. My friend visited him twice in NYC and made the rounds with him to meet other dealers etc. The fellow was in his late 20's. About two years ago the fellow said he was going back to China for a month and while he was there, his 'Uncle' called and said the guy fell and broke a leg (true or false?) and would be gone about three months instead of one. He came back to NYC after a few months and then got harder and harder to get on the phone. Finally, no answers or call-backs at all. Total silence. My friend called the 'Uncle' and asked what happened. His answer was that the fellow got killed in China in a car accident (BMW this time) and he would be taking orders from now on. Later on as he got to know the Uncle, the Uncle said this is how they 'retire' from the business...claim to go DOA in an accident of some sort and break all ties with customers. If they go back in business, they start fresh with a new name etc. The 'Uncle' is still Ok in NYC and answering his phone as of last Friday...we talked to him. How did we get in contact with the first NYC guy to start with? Paid $500 for the phone number and a reference to someone who did business with him. About 7 or 8 years back we got to know 'a guy' who sold nib genuine Seiko 5, Orient, and Eta 2836-2 Oniss watches by paying up the same way (but less). Iirc the Seiko 5 were $40, the regular Orients were $35, the 50 year calendar Orients were $55, and the Oniss were $75. The Oniss were styled after the rolex prez.
TheBattler Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 I have heard a variation of this story... A friend knew a fellow from China that lived in NYC who sent him all kinds of stuff for 4 or 5 years...designer style handbags, cheapo fashion watches, jewelry etc...no replica trademark items but he could get them. My friend visited him twice in NYC and made the rounds with him to meet other dealers etc. The fellow was in his late 20's. About two years ago the fellow said he was going back to China for a month and while he was there, his 'Uncle' called and said the guy fell and broke a leg (true or false?) and would be gone about three months instead of one. He came back to NYC after a few months and then got harder and harder to get on the phone. Finally, no answers or call-backs at all. Total silence. My friend called the 'Uncle' and asked what happened. His answer was that the fellow got killed in China in a car accident (BMW this time) and he would be taking orders from now on. Later on as he got to know the Uncle, the Uncle said this is how they 'retire' from the business...claim to go DOA in an accident of some sort and break all ties with customers. If they go back in business, they start fresh with a new name etc. The 'Uncle' is still Ok in NYC and answering his phone as of last Friday...we talked to him. How did we get in contact with the first NYC guy to start with? Paid $500 for the phone number and a reference to someone who did business with him. About 7 or 8 years back we got to know 'a guy' who sold nib genuine Seiko 5, Orient, and Eta 2836-2 Oniss watches by paying up the same way (but less). Iirc the Seiko 5 were $40, the regular Orients were $35, the 50 year calendar Orients were $55, and the Oniss were $75. The Oniss were styled after the rolex prez. ETA 2836-2 powered watch for $75? Very hard to believe. Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2
woof* Posted May 22, 2012 Report Posted May 22, 2012 Eight years ago...with this kinda fit/finish...not that hard for me.
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