dieselpower Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 I have no watch to put it on. I have no idea what I'm going to do but I was wondering what the opinion was of the JAW 702 crown, any good? POS? Any cheaper equivalent alternative? Is $150 a rip off? All the usual questions. Thanks to any experts who care to share their experience/knowledge. Humbly and respectfully yours. Dieselpower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 got a linky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praetor Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 you can defininitely get a used 702 crown for less than 150 dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 I think these crowns are overpriced i have been trying to find a 702 for my 5513 for over a year but 300 plus i want something around 50usd it just seems a lot for a rep build to me! we tried to narrow the cartel crown by shaving the inside a little in a taper but after i reshaped the cgs to look more like a 65 gen we had the crown still looks to wide! do we have any aftermarket/rep crowns? (narrow) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted September 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 Here's your linky Andy: http://www.jewelryandwatch.com/index1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 Is that $150 with the tube? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cib0rgman Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 I think these crowns are overpriced i have been trying to find a 702 for my 5513 for over a year but 300 plus i want something around 50usd it just seems a lot for a rep build to me! we tried to narrow the cartel crown by shaving the inside a little in a taper but after i reshaped the cgs to look more like a 65 gen we had the crown still looks to wide! do we have any aftermarket/rep crowns? (narrow) I have a 702 with the tube that I purchase back in 2007 I think for $50 and I? am saving it because I have not find what to use for.. 702 does not have the dots right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 http://www.jewelryandwatch.com/contents/en-us/d77.html 702 is $125 sealed. you can probably get a used one for $80-$100 but for $25 more a new one is worth it, you never know the integrity of the spring or threads in the used ones, and they will always have uneven wear on the threaded grip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 I have a 702 with the tube that I purchase back in 2007 I think for $50 and I? am saving it because I have not find what to use for.. 702 does not have the dots right? Yes thats correct no dots thats what im looking for! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 http://www.jewelryan.../en-us/d77.html 702 is $125 sealed. you can probably get a used one for $80-$100 but for $25 more a new one is worth it, you never know the integrity of the spring or threads in the used ones, and they will always have uneven wear on the threaded grip I have seen this site before and forgot it they have a big selection of goodies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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woof* Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Thank you Freddy. I have not seen any used 702's in awhile. All of them new on ebay are 3-400$ Has anyone seen phong's in person? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromatic Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Yes thats correct no dots thats what im looking for! thanks to freddy so the 702 has dots and its the 700 that does not? i dont mind with or without ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted September 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Does the 702 need a different tube to the 703? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Yes, the 702 tube is different and won't work with a 703 crown. The second page of J&W's crown page has a 702 crown and tube for $150- if it's still available, that would be a fair deal. 702 tubes are hard to find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted September 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Thanks alligoat. If I may further enquire: I bought a crown and tube for my 6263 Daytona about 1 year ago. I bought them because, as I understood, the crowns originally fitted on 6263 Daytonas were different to the 703 service crowns in that the 703 service replacement had a slightly different logo, the emblem was shorter and fatter and there was a bigger distance between the bottom of the logo and the triplock dots (as per freddy333's photo 703 above) than on the original, taller logo'd crown where the base of the logo was noticeably closer to the triplock dots (as per freddy333's photo 702 above). So, if you're all still with me, does that mean I bought a 702 crown and tube, or was there an early version of the 703 crown that looked, from the outside, the same as the 702? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 There is an early version of the 703 crown which looks the same as the 702 crown- with the tall crown emblem. I don't know when the fat squatty 703 crown came out- maybe mid 90s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted September 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Thanks again for that alligoat. That makes complete sense because I was sure I had supplied a 703 tube with the tall crown and it fitted fine so I hope you can understand my confusion. Alls well that ends well. For a horrible moment I was thinking that I had supplied a 702 crown and tube (unbeknownst to me) and had those expensive parts fitted wrongly to a 6263 'Tona. Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 I always found the crowns were reasonably easy to find (albeit at exhorbinant prices). The tube is the tough part. $150 for both sounds fine. The gens I have seen with tube (but I am no expert) were always north of $400. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 A 702 crown and tube would be correct on a Daytona 6263 until 1980 or 1981. Somewhere around then the 703 came into existence. I've seen a 1983 1665 with the old 702 crown and tube. So you never quite know with Rolex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted September 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Oh. So if one was to build a 70's 6263 Daytona the JAW 702 crown and tube at $150 looks quite a good buy then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 The 702 is the King of Crowns ... go for it. That's one reason Daytonas were unpopular / inexpensive back then, they had manual wind movements and screwdown crowns, and lots of customers said "why bother?!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 If I had a spare to give you Diesel, I would. I gave most of my extra 702s away last year though, and all I have left are two for my backups I concur with the grizzly hunter; 702 is definitely the tops in my book. 702 with a 703: Notice how much larger/wider the bottom fluting is with the crimped edges: Crown and tube; it's the profile that does it for me: From the top, it almost looks like a sunflower with the 'cut ins' from the knurling: What's not to love? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Ubi was more than kind enough to donate one of those 702s to me last year. These pop out every now and then on eBay. Just two weeks ago I saw one sold for $56 or so with tube! I was too late , but hey. Now, my 6263/5 whatever, has a 703 and tube with the crimped back and it does not look out of place and it's something that would have been serviced and which would have replaced a 702 for sure. A lot more of those floating around and will be a good cherry on the top sort of speak, until a 702 can be sourced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted September 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Thanks for that R appreciated. I'm not scouting for a gen 702, I'm quite happy with the tall coronet 703 that is now fitted to the watch. I just wanted to highlight to any other Daytona builders that (assuming the JAW crown is good quality and an accurate rep) there is a reasonably priced option for a build if you don't want to go to the expense of the gen 702. I for one did not even know that there was a rep 702 crown and tube set. Whilst we're on the subject, what about gaskets. I notice on the JAW photos the tube is not pictured with gaskets. Is there a 702 crown/tube gasket set available anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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