15400 RO from Angus worth the wait?

[mm..mm]

For thin wrist

I would strongly recommend getting a nautilus or aquanaut. Very well constructed pieces. I own both.

M

[alw]

^ Yes, I love the designs, but am not sure if I could pull a Patek off...

[gran]

PATEK is an excellent choice..nautilus or aquanaut are in the same price category as AP

 

I will not buy the current 15400 Ill wait for the V2 or the Miyota version

[markiemark]

Either this or a diver.......

[markiemark]

I really want this one

http://static.squarespace.com/static/4fa14d3ce4b08a53fa26468e/500881b0e4b0634b00d359ed/5008824de4b0634b00d3a60b/1327499548543/1000w

[alw]

PATEK is an excellent choice..nautilus or aquanaut are in the same price category as AP

 

 

Close...but not quite.

[zero_deficit]

Ok, how about us thin-wristed-people: how small can you adjust the bracelet?

 

i'm 6.7 inches and took off only 2 links, you can take off another 4-5

[gran]

Close...but not quite.

 

how close?

[ceejay]

Dont know if its been picked up on before but look at the AP logo, on the gen the right hand side of the A is vertical parallel with the upright of the P.

The rep A is not vertical and the P follows this line making it lean to the left (wonky)

[Avensis]

Maybe its just me but from other pics of Angus version the AP logo looks a bit too rounded..

[Mr Z]

mine arrived today ... very very beautiful watches  (thanks to ryan super fast shipment 2 days to wrist )

 

[tech]

z...those look excellent!

 

Your datewheels look fairly centered too. Well, at least on the blue one! Nice pickup.

 

I've looked over these for way too long and just need to get one!

[xelorrolex]

@ Mr Z : Congratulations for your two new babes !!

 

The one on the right is black or blue ?

 

... and what is the "feeling" on the wrist ? (hope you see what I mean ... )

 

Xel

[madmex]

This is a beautiful watch and will likely be my second Royal Oak. I previously owned the TW version that had a closed back, with a Swiss ETA and gold-tone screws on the bezel. Not 1:1 construction style, but it wore nicely.  I am planning on the white dial version 15400 from the new factory.  My reasoning behind going with new factory vs the BP version is mostly based on the decoration of the movement but also thickness.  The BP may have a gen swiss movement, but the finishing is too basic and not worthy of the rest of the watch. The canon pinion on these BP ETAs is better suited for Rolex clones with the tall clearances between the hands. I suspect that is where the extra 0.9mm in thickness comes from.

 

The new factory version has an ETA 2824 clone (25 or 26 jewels) with a beautiful radial Colimaçonnée (diamond cut snailing circular finish on the perimeter of the bridges), and Côtes de Genève or "Geneva stripes" on the winding bridge. Additionally on the winding bridge perimeter step down there is snailing. It looks good and is a reliable movement from experience (assuming it is the same one that Noob is using on their V2 sub, IWC Vintage Ingenieur).  

 

I am looking forward to see the upcoming 24 jewel Miyota 9015 version, which I was told by Angus should be out within 2 months (hopefully that is a well-padded date) , has the Geneva stripes and a plus is the winding rotor center bearing which sort-of resembles the 45 jewel (officially 40) 4.25mm thick AP 3120 part at least more closely than the single screw and copper colored bearing of the winding rotor on the ETA design.  One small detail is that the main plate does not have decoration--only the automatic winding bridge does--at least in the 9015s I have seen on the Internet so far.  

 

A down side of both of these watches is the beat rate of 28000vph (4Hz) or 8 ticks per second, but it results in good accuracy in timekeeping and looks very smooth vs. the genuine's 21600vph (3Hz) or 6 ticks per second.  If this is an issue the drive train from an ETA 2846-2 could be substituted assuming it fits the Asian clone counterpart. I would leave it alone at 28000vph.  

 

Someone mentioned their curiosity as to why the slim 21 Jewel 3.6mm Asian 2892A2 clone--the rather excellent SeaGull ST18--was not used.  Frankly I am very fond of that movement due to its performance.  I purchased it on an Omega Speedmaster James Bond 50 years watch from the BP factory, and transplanted it into  a blue SMP-c from the same BP factory, and I can say the movement is very accurate and well decorated. 

 

The only issue with the ST18 is the same as would be using the ETA2892A2--the winding rotor mount is very peculiar looking and resembles the gen even less.  That said, I like the movement so much that I would buy more watches with this movement.  

 

My $0.02.

 

 

Beautiful watches btw.

Edited September 27, 2013 by madmex

[zuluparuk]

So let me make sure I understand this, I can take remove the links from the AP 15400 and make it for a 6.5/6.4 inch wrist? I was told it would be too big. If it does indeed fit I'm going to be a happy camper because I've had my eye on a blue version for some time now.

Cheers

[mjmj]

So let me make sure I understand this, I can take remove the links from the AP 15400 and make it for a 6.5/6.4 inch wrist? I was told it would be too big. If it does indeed fit I'm going to be a happy camper because I've had my eye on a blue version for some time now.

Cheers

 

It should fit you. I have a 6.7" wrist and it looks pretty good. Mine is a BP version.

[errrlend]

Any ETA on the new Angus version? Jan-Feb?

[Samurai]

I wouldn't hold my breath on the release date as yet.

Sent from Samsung Note 3

[LeSentier]

Dear Gents, does anyone of our insiders have news on the new 15400, or has anyone heard of an update on the 15300? I am not sure at the moment if to pull the trigger on the current version, or wait until March or April for the release #undecided...

[LeSentier]

Bump

[markiemark]

Bump

No answer, no news.

[LeSentier]

No answer, no news.

Seems to be correct - let's wait, hope and see...

[maevit4996]

The main thing I want fixed is the AP logo on the dial with the space in between A and P filled in. From what I can see, the BP dial has this but without proper case dimensions. I will wait patiently for the next one. 

[atomic_doug]

Not to be a Debbie Downer, but I'm not sure the Miyota is the answer.  I've had a couple of gens with 9105's and it's not the replacement for the 2824 or 2892 that it's claimed to be.  Rotor noise is quite noticeable even through a closed caseback, and these are movements that have come out of an OEM's QC, not rep shops'...I guess we can call it QC.  It's also unidirectional winding, so it's got a rotor wobble like a 7750.

[JKDDUDE]

The space between the what and the what! Gimme a break dude! No one will ever notice that tiny fault. Rep people need to get their heads examined.