rolojack Posted October 30, 2016 Report Posted October 30, 2016 That watch was something else to do !!! Imagine: it started as a 1680 case ! Yes, the only cartel case correct for a 2824 movement I could find was a PT 1680. It was intensively modified as you can see. Trimmed from the top down to appear super slim. Bezel and dial are from Vietnam... CWP T19 super dome. TC 16610 hands aged to match the dial. Caseback was the 1680 caseback totally modified. Inside runs a swiss made 2824. Voilà !!! Something else really, and lots of character on the wrist. Ah, and of course engravings by Neckyzips. Beautiful as usual. 6
DVNE Posted October 30, 2016 Report Posted October 30, 2016 holy moly! You grinded off a whole lotta metal and shaped it correctly. Amazing work as usual!
Blindpirat Posted October 30, 2016 Report Posted October 30, 2016 Some sort of pure magic happened here!Sent from Hell
Sogeha Posted October 30, 2016 Report Posted October 30, 2016 As I was reading this I picked up my Cartel case. Amazing work!
Nanuq Posted October 31, 2016 Report Posted October 31, 2016 Daaaaaaaang what a result!! I'd lower that crystal about 3mm but that case work is amazing.
paristoto Posted October 31, 2016 Report Posted October 31, 2016 Amazing job. I do think the hands need a bit more aging to match the dial. Just my opinion.
slay Posted October 31, 2016 Report Posted October 31, 2016 Wow! I re-read this 10 times to make sure that I'm going nuts and you really said it started as a *1680* case. Great work!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
mir36 Posted October 31, 2016 Report Posted October 31, 2016 Love the magic you performed on the case! Any chance you can post some casework shots? Makes me wish I had a lathe.
automatico Posted October 31, 2016 Report Posted October 31, 2016 That case looks super fine! mir36: "Makes me wish I had a lathe." I thinned the case sides down on a DW 1680 case using a cheapo Harbor Freight disc sander. It took a while and I never finished the lug bevels or removed the CG so the lug thinning part of it can be done without expensive machinery...but it is slow going. The mid case is 5.2mm thick in the middle of the 9 o'clock side and the same at the 3 o'clock side (centered over the case tube threads) so it may be thin enough as is. The DW case is made for a rolex 1570/5 date mvt or ETA 2836. I have an aftmkt 8mm tube/crown set but paying mucho $$ for a bezel would hold me back. rolojack...Please measure the thickness of your case in the center and see how thick it is if you get a chance. I would like to know how close mine is.
Nanuq Posted October 31, 2016 Report Posted October 31, 2016 This is the very definition of making a silk purse from a sow's ear. Beautiful result.
JoeyB Posted October 31, 2016 Report Posted October 31, 2016 Nicely done. As mentioned, the crystal needs to be shortened, it is sitting too high up. Also, this would not be a 6204. The 6204 has a 6mm crown, and the second hand has the lollipop at the end.
rower Posted October 31, 2016 Report Posted October 31, 2016 The bevels are better than what RSC Dallas does! You really should go there and teach them!
steve3sc Posted November 1, 2016 Report Posted November 1, 2016 Very nice, indeed. Love the bevels, and you hit the thickness vs. length ratio just right. Truly beautiful, artisan metal work. I'm jealous of 2 things in this......this time piece, and the skill it took to fabricate it. And your pics are on point too..... Hats off.
darth_xyko Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 Wow awesomeness overloaded Sir RJ! Owner will be very pleased wish I was the guy hahahahahah Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Nanuq Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 If I send you a toaster will you make me a Porsche? I'd say you have the skill set. About the tall crystal mentioned earlier, this is the height you want for a 50s Sub: 2
rolojack Posted November 28, 2016 Author Report Posted November 28, 2016 Thanks for the kind comments!!! I'm well aware of the look of the Gen... That crystal was changed already. As well as the hands were re aged and the bezel is now brassy. However, I could not find such a low profile of T19. So it's not as slim as it should be. Damn.... You're killing me with that picture.... I really have to find a better crystal. Question is what to use? I won't find rep of that. It can only be an adaptation....
Nanuq Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 I had a T39 on my Snowflake and was able to cut it down a bit over 2mm until the inner curve of the dome hit the rehaut. A T19 has a thinner dome so you might be able to cut lower than that? A vibrating sander works great. Another thought... I have a 5517 that needs a crystal slightly bigger than a T19, and a T21 from an old DW Daytona fit like a champ and looks great. The domes on these old Subs are not thick, so the look would be appropriate too.
Blindpirat Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 Speechless, amazing work!Sent from Hell
rolojack Posted November 28, 2016 Author Report Posted November 28, 2016 the crystal is already shaved to the max. Problem is the thickness of it atop. And the dome T21 is a no go. I really wonder what T21 could replace a T19... I guess stock varied from a dw to an other...
dieselpower Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 Amazing work. Beautiful piece. Well done.
Nanuq Posted November 28, 2016 Report Posted November 28, 2016 10 hours ago, rolojack said: Problem is the thickness of it atop. And the dome T21 is a no go. I really wonder what T21 could replace a T19... Ah, the 5517 isn't gen spec, so a T19 wouldn't fit. I tried 12-15 different crystals and POW, that one worked. Take a look at the Sternkreuz catalog. A T19 comes in a couple sizes, and comparing the most common size I see possibilities in the XAG 297.519, the XAC 301.616 and XAC 301.617, and the XAC 312.680. If the inner diameter fits, you can make the outer diameter work. Good luck! sternkreuz.pdf
automatico Posted November 29, 2016 Report Posted November 29, 2016 O Frei shows a few different number GS 19 crystals. http://www.ofrei.com/page419.html
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