RWG Technical Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 I think most will remember this dial here that I posted pics of last week. It was relumed by someone other than me, and send to me to see if I could salvage it. A real shame as it’s a “Singer” dial…here are the pics of the BEFORE Well I really felt bad for the owner and decided to see if I could improve and salvage the lume and try and fix the damage on the dial… Here’s what I managed to do…not perfect, still some damage visible, but overall I am pleased with my workmanship. I removed the bad lume, reworked the dial where it was damaged, and relumed it with a custom colour I mixed up to replicate a vintage model. I just finished restoring a 50 year old Doxa with nice aged lume, and used that colour as my guide for this one… AFTER Re-Work And a bit of a glow shot, not as bright as normal untinted lume, but in this case, being a vintage piece, probably more realisitic. I think the owner will be pleased with the results. Thanks for looking, RG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonthebhoy Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Wow....nice work Rob. The owner will be delighted. Got a darker night shot? JTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marrickvilleboy Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 man thats a horrible re-lume job....looks like something a 8 year old has done with acrylic paint..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsons Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Amazing work, Rob!! I would be amazing artistry with an untouched MBW dial but it is beyond aewesome what you have done given what you had to work with. I second, third, fourth ...... that the owner will be one very happy camper. Jet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 i think the owner will be delighted by your work! i would... great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted April 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Wow....nice work Rob. The owner will be delighted. Got a darker night shot? JTB I have it cased now, and will take a assembled in the dark picture and post tonight...if I have time. RG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Very nice redo. Looking forward to seeing the cased pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRT Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Rob- How did you keep the paint so even? Did you use anything other than a small brush? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted April 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Rob- How did you keep the paint so even? Did you use anything other than a small brush? The lume is not applied with a brush, it's done with a fine needle. How do I keep it even and flow out nice and smooth? 30 years of painting with oil paints is probably a big part of it. That and having invested hunderds of hours in perfecting the workmanship and reluming dozens and dozens of dials... Practice, practice, and more practice...and mistakes along the way...on my own watches... RG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takashi Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Hmmm... The first few pictures are really horrible. You've done an excellent job restoring it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r11co Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Only one word to describe the workmanship... WOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finepics Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Nice job Rob - damn fine piece of work, especially considering how it looked at the beginning. I doubt I could do nearly as well on something like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stac Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Nice job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 (edited) After that, i must say to clear the fact that was my "horrible" job.... That was the second attempt to do do it better..... Ashes on my head. The first attempt looked like this..... i wanted to do it more vintage that was the mistake.... ok ok, shame on me..... the new owner told me that he is happy with the watch,he sayed nothing to me about the dial. But i ask him.... PS On the mbw vintages there are mostly Singer Dials...... By the way impressive work,not like my second attempt. Edited April 11, 2006 by Tribal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff g Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Rob, nice work, as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avitt Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Tribal, Was that one that you did with the Revell Night Color paint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Tribal, Was that one that you did with the Revell Night Color paint? Yep,but the second attempt was a mistake i think.... Rg Tribal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Kick Save and a Beauty Rob Nice job as usual. Clear example of why I would never even attempt a relume myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Great job Rob but one question, how did you fix where the lume had been smeared over the dial around the 12 o'clock marker? Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted April 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 After that, i must say to clear the fact that was my "horrible" job.... That was the second attempt to do do it better..... Ashes on my head. The first attempt looked like this..... i wanted to do it more vintage that was the mistake.... ok ok, shame on me..... the new owner told me that he is happy with the watch,he sayed nothing to me about the dial. But i ask him.... PS On the mbw vintages there are mostly Singer Dials...... By the way impressive work,not like my second attempt. I did not know who had done the relume. I know who the owner who sent me the watch was (of course) but when I looked the the lume, I said to the owner of the watch: "I dont' want to know who did the relume, I am only interested if you would like me to try and see if I can fix it and make it better..." The owner never told me who did the relume as it was not important to know. My reason for posting was to simply compare and show that indeed it was fixed up and made to look better...I had no other intentions but to show that it was fixed up. Others have sent me genuine vinatge pieces with terrible relume, and this was also to show them that I could fix their vintage pieces without runing the dials... I have always admired Tribal and the work he has done and the fact he is willing to try and do mods himself. If I offended you in any way, please accept my apology tribal, it was not my intent...until I read your post, I did not know who did the work... I have 30 years of oil artistic painting under my belt and 2 ruined personal watches that I practiced my lume on...so even with that advantage, I screwed up my first attempts... There is no shame in this at all, luming is not easy and totally unforgiving... RG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 As the owner of the watch and in fairness to all, I have to say that Rob had no idea who had done the previous work. In truth, it was one of several pieces I had sent to Rob for relume (including another MBW). And as Tribal says I am happy with the watch and have certainly never complained. His other mods on the watch are fabulous. I simply took advantage of the fact that the watch was with Rob anyhow for a crown upgrade to get the dial redone. So cheers to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the collector Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 (edited) I did not know who had done the relume. I know who the owner who sent me the watch was (of course) but when I looked the the lume, I said to the owner of the watch: "I dont' want to know who did the relume, I am only interested if you would like me to try and see if I can fix it and make it better..." The owner never told me who did the relume as it was not important to know. My reason for posting was to simply compare and show that indeed it was fixed up and made to look better...I had no other intentions but to show that it was fixed up. Others have sent me genuine vinatge pieces with terrible relume, and this was also to show them that I could fix their vintage pieces without runing the dials... I have always admired Tribal and the work he has done and the fact he is willing to try and do mods himself. If I offended you in any way, please accept my apology tribal, it was not my intent...until I read your post, I did not know who did the work... I have 30 years of oil artistic painting under my belt and 2 ruined personal watches that I practiced my lume on...so even with that advantage, I screwed up my first attempts... There is no shame in this at all, luming is not easy and totally unforgiving... RG Hi The Zigmeister, no problem for me...... Im not offend or so....... It was a mistake,i know and i stand for it,thats the reason i told that was my horrible job to everyone here.... no problem at all...... And a great job with fantastic result..... im amazed in your workmanship........ Next time i will do it better.............. or better i ship it to you : ) RG Tribal Edited April 14, 2006 by Tribal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted April 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 @tribal Glad to hear this from you, as kruzer said, I have a few of his here for work and this one was one of many that I was working on... Keep practicing, it takes a lot of practice to get it right... As requested, here are pics of the cased watch, light, and dark... RG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oswald Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 Super work rob I keep checking the mail for the EXP you did for me. Man I hate the wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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