KB Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 I was searching around for beautiful watches to enter in the 'Worlds mosr beautiful watch' thread when I found this.......... Here's the wrap.. Challenger Mens The Klaus Kobec Challenger is a truly magnificent timepiece that combines an ultra-modern carbon fibre effect dial featuring the day, date and month sub-dials of the Swiss multi-function movement, housed within a brushed solid stainless steel case with an integrated luxury leather strap. The 18ct gold plated crown and strap attachments are complemented by the stunning golden finish hands, indices and sub-dial surrounds. This unique timepiece is practical, durable and represents a fitting tribute to its motorsport origins. Features Include: Carbon Fibre Effect Dial. 18ct Gold Plated Crown and Strap Attachments. Swiss Multi-Function Movement featuring Day, Date and Month Sub-Dials. Golden Finish Hands, Sub-Dial Surrounds and Indices. Leather Strap. Water-Resistant to 3atms (98ft). 5-Year Unlimited Warranty on the Swiss Multi-Function Movement (Ladies does not include Multi-Function Movement). Please note, picture shows both Ladies & Mens The price? Well they say they are worth $975 but are selling for $199 If anyone is interested they can be found here... http://www.timepiecesusa.com/product_detai...mp;vlang_id=246 Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Tracy Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Beautiful !.. Love the gold hands over the black background... Going to check those out.... Thanks Ken.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitmic Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 I'm not too excited by those pics. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bres3000 Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artoero Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 don't like it, sorry, it looks cheap.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted July 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Obviously except for Kevin these watches aren't going over too well, anyone care to share why..............I mean they are only two hundred bucks Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitmic Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Obviously except for Kevin these watches aren't going over too well, anyone care to share why..............I mean they are only two hundred bucks Ken Like artoero said, they look cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polynomial Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 From the pics I cannot honestly say the material/quality looks obviously cheeper then, say, 187, the case seems to be brushed, which is s nice touch, perhaps the straps should be dark brown gator with white stiching, other then that not bad looking, but not something I would order straight off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 The Klaus Kobec Challenger is a truly magnificent timepiece ... This is a known pseudo-luxury brand. From http://www.chronocentric.com/watches/counterfeit.shtml Three specific brands known to play the luxury watch imposter game are:Klaus Kobec -- Advertises heavily in magazines as being comparable to US$2,000+ watches, with a retail price of US$900, but can be yours for only US$200.Krug Baumen -- Sold on auction sites. Claims "RRP" in the £475-625 (US$900-1,200) range, yet they routinely sell in the £15-50 (US$30-100) range. Even has an impressive looking official website for the brand.Montre Suisse -- Sold on auction sites especially in the United Kingdom, often in bulk lots of 5 to 10 pieces. Claims a retail price of £129.99 (approximately US$250), yet are sold in any quantity you want for less than £5.99 (US$12) each. Ironically, their name translates to "Swiss style."Caveat Emptor, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r11co Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Weren't the owners of the Klaus Kobec/Zeitner brands investigated for defrauding the UK government or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympus Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 (edited) The shopping channel "i-buy" sells these all the time I saw a bloke on holiday wearing one it was a "gold" one and had KLAUS KOBEC in massive capital letters round the dial. I felt so sorry for him That one above has carbon "effect" dial, "golden finish" hands It's more of a fake than anything we wear Edited July 12, 2006 by Olympus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 This is a known pseudo-luxury brand. From http://www.chronocentric.com/watches/counterfeit.shtml Three specific brands known to play the luxury watch imposter game are:Klaus Kobec -- Advertises heavily in magazines as being comparable to US$2,000+ watches, with a retail price of US$900, but can be yours for only US$200.Krug Baumen -- Sold on auction sites. Claims "RRP" in the £475-625 (US$900-1,200) range, yet they routinely sell in the £15-50 (US$30-100) range. Even has an impressive looking official website for the brand.Montre Suisse -- Sold on auction sites especially in the United Kingdom, often in bulk lots of 5 to 10 pieces. Claims a retail price of £129.99 (approximately US$250), yet are sold in any quantity you want for less than £5.99 (US$12) each. Ironically, their name translates to "Swiss style."Caveat Emptor, I guess. On e-bay there is also roebelin&graef click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighDef Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Nice casual watches, but reminds me of those quartz Fossil watches sold in malls. Sorry don't like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasng Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Sorry- reminds me of the HK$20 street watches hawkers sell. HAs that cheap look to it of Fossil, Guess watches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 I think I've seen the Klaus Kobec watches advertised in Car and Driver magazines... Along with Steinhauer. Both advertise the same thing; watches with an implied value of several thousands of dollars selling for a fraction of the cost (I think the slogan is something to the effect of '$189 on the wrist, $3,000 in your pocket'). For me, personally, I think I'd prefer to buy some vintage Seikos or reps for the same money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest overboosted Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Trying to hard to be fancy.....ends up looking like puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystalcranium Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 I think I've seen the Klaus Kobec watches advertised in Car and Driver magazines... Along with Steinhauer. Both advertise the same thing; watches with an implied value of several thousands of dollars selling for a fraction of the cost (I think the slogan is something to the effect of '$189 on the wrist, $3,000 in your pocket'). For me, personally, I think I'd prefer to buy some vintage Seikos or reps for the same money. Are these Chinese made watches marketed as "legitimate" name brands???? Whenever I see a Steinhauer advertised, I think "that's straight from a Chinese factory because it has the replica "formula", a high quality mechanical watch, perhaps swiss movement, for a fraction of the cost of a genuine swiss movement watch." There just isn't the complicating addition of it being a counterfeit as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Typically these watches carry the Chinese movements. Take for example... The advertisement I saw featured a Daytona-esque watch with day and date subdials (I think it was a steinhauer). Looked like a Canal Street quality case, and overall had the appearance of being a low cost, over priced rep watch with a different logo on the dial. And, I wouldn't doubt it one bit if it came from the same factory as an equally low quality rep... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Don't like the design.. Looks cheap as the others have said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornerstone Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Chronocentric say this: "Klaus Kobec -- Advertises heavily in magazines as being comparable to US$2,000+ watches, with a retail price of US$900, but can be yours for only US$200." Now, I don't like the aesthetics of this watch, and I think a gold plated crown is a bad idea - but if they stick an ETA in perhaps they are entitled to compare it to $2000+ watches. That's what we do. Where they come unstuck a bit is with the RRP rubbish (a game many play) - it costs less than $200 everywhere, and it's across ebay like a rash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 I don't like the look of these watches...just like somebody already said...they look cheap! better to invest 200$ in reps rather in these.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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