cwai02 Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 (edited) Edited: Edited August 2, 2006 by cwai02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwai02 Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 his id is efren803 @ TRC. Same as his photobucket id and ebay id. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 I think the forum admins (of all rep forums) & dealers should have access to these people's IP-information as well. When their forum reputation is ruined they can just create another forum name & identity and scam again. Of course the IP ban wouldn't be idiot-proof but at least it would make it a bit more difficult for them to operate. They don't necessarily scam just dealers... but the fellow trading members as well. Ron's idea of public "blacklist" isn't bad at all. I say go for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve G Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 (edited) Nobody takes advantage of Andrew...he's the best and doesn't deserve this. Andrew I'm in NJ, I'll see what I can do for you, if not TO HIM. Edited August 1, 2006 by Steve G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdoch Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 That [censored] sounds like one hell of a dumbass!!!! I hope that everything sorts out for you Andrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighDef Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Man this is shocking - Efren "was" a respected member of the old RWG - he was around about 1.5 years ago. Then he disappeared. I sold him an aBay Tt Sub 2 years ago, nice easy deal. Incredible, what's happened to him? I'm very sorry for your troubles, Andrew. Hey Rek, you have been arround since 2003?? This Efren guy seem to be respected member here during those time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dachshund Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 I think the forum admins (of all rep forums) & dealers should have access to these people's IP-information as well. When their forum reputation is ruined they can just create another forum name & identity and scam again. Of course the IP ban wouldn't be idiot-proof but at least it would make it a bit more difficult for them to operate. They don't necessarily scam just dealers... but the fellow trading members as well. Ron's idea of public "blacklist" isn't bad at all. I say go for it! Good post Thor, I've said exactly this same thing for some time now. I can't see the need for full information to all members like dealers need, but at least post their screen name so that all members can see them. WTF should I not be privilaged to this information so that I could avoid a deal with some Ahole like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rek001 Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Yes, my fun (expensive) rep collecting hobby started in September 2003. Efren was a frequest contributor, and get this - if I remember right - he even sold reps a bit. He should know better, having been on the selling side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshore Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 We do have some IP tools, and are looking in to this. I remember efren very well, and yes he did sell some watches, I bought a couple from him. I find it hard to beleive that these two are the same person... but we will continue to investigate. Offshore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migiandone Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 I was one! One who does this, I do a PP complain to Andrew in the past, when I bought my first rep, was the wrost thing I have done in rep worlds, but at that time I was not knowing who andrew was, now I can say, with no one dubt, he is a very very good dealer with a service unbelivable, apart from this he is a good guy, he solve all the problems in friendly way, I can only say this: Andrew is Super, my last birthday he send me FOR FREE a beautiful Omega, I was not tell this since now, because now I think all guys in the forum claim his gift from Andrew. Remember there is no way to not solve with Andrew. Ciao! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammalone Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 What a low-life arrogant piece of crap weasel! Tell him to go to Canal Street for his reps. He's not worthy of any of the respected sellers' services. Andrew you are a good man and he will get his! We have a unique community here that needs to be protected. A membership fee may deter certain members. It is a privilege to be here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmosblau Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Perhaps this person can be coerced into removing trusty's paypal complaint. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertk Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 I bought several reps from "Efren". very good dealer, very honorable. I can't believe it's the same guy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TTK Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 (edited) Efren Alcala was member 'efren803'...on TRC...which he joined on 25 June 2003.......he last posted on TRC on 23rd April 2005....297 post total...he bought from me on2/7/2004....one time only purchase....same address same details....! I have his e-mail address...but I won't publish it here.....! He's a long standing member...of TRC....haven't ever seen him on RWG (1 or 2 ).......but he should be aware of the consequences of his actions......I think there's a resolution to this....but it doesn't involve knee-capping personal visits......there must be a reason why he's taken the stance he has.....he must feel aggrieved or threatened by some inaction or otherwise. Remember Andrew to post his details in Dealer Area....so other dealers can see Edited August 2, 2006 by TTK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcrooz Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Efren Alcala was member 'efren803'...on TRC...which he joined on 25 June 2003.......he last posted on TRC on 23rd April 2005....297 post total...he bought from me on2/7/2004....one time only purchase....same address same details....! I have his e-mail address...but I won't publish it here.....! He's a long standing member...of TRC....haven't ever seen him on RWG (1 or 2 ).......but he should be aware of the consequences of his actions......I think there's a resolution to this....but it doesn't involve knee-capping personal visits......there must be a reason why he's taken the stance he has.....he must feel aggrieved or threatened by some inaction or otherwise. Remember Andrew to post his details in Dealer Area....so other dealers can see Agree that knee-capping may not be the most suitable way to sort out this torrid situation which will affect Andrew and his customer base if it is not resolved. I would appeal to other dealers and the mods/admin of RWG and probably more importantly TRC to try to contact him and appeal to his better nature (if he has one). I think it's in everyone's interest to sort this out sensibly, most of all for Andrew who will suffer if he can't get PAYPAL up and running again. Incidentally, I can't believe that an expereinced member, buyer, collector and seller would behave in such a way towards Andrew of all people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fendushi Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 What a tool, morons like him spoil it for all of us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Just one point everyone Efren has (I believe) never visited this board, therefore your Admin team cannot do a great deal about this. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trustywatchguy Posted August 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Dear all, Everything came to an end this morning. The PAYPAL complaint actually did some irreversible damage to my account. But I think something pop up my mind while I was having supper with my missus. I told her about the whole ordeal that happened to me yesterday and one thing which I realised is that in this world... Hatred breeds hatred. I did hate what Efren done to me and my PP account but it was definitely something which he felt was right to do at the moment. After the supper, I made my way back home and had an early sleep. Well, it was the BEST NIGHT i had...peaceful sleep till this morning and I decided to email Efren. He removed the personal complaint to PP but the PP complaint about www.trustytime.com was something which cannot be removed so I had to contact PP and resolve this myself. I emailed Efren to tell him I do not want to pursue anything anymore and offered to send him the watch for free but he refused. He wanted to end everything so I respected his decision and thus ended this ordeal. I felt better... I hope he does too... One lesson learned.... Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarks Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Andrew, you are a true gentlemen. Hats off to you. Glad the dispute is resolved between you and Efren. I know if I were you, I would have blown my top and things will get really nasty... Sorry to hear about your website tho. I do hope it gets resolved as well. cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitmic Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Good to know that it turned out pretty well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trustywatchguy Posted August 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Dear guys, Thanks for the concern. Everything is back to normal. Orders can be taken direct from website and payment via PAYPAL is OK. Thanks =) Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 The guy is a first class jerk no doubt about that and uncalled for....but can I say one thing as the devil's advocate I will not mention any dealer names of course but the amount of "mistakes" (crooked dials, dirt in the case, wrong watch) is astonishing in my order history. And the amount of time it takes to respond to an email order is usually about 5 min and a email letting the dealer know of a problem is certainly slower and getting something reshipped and sent back from china is a 3 week process. All the major dealers here do a GREAT job of providing some really cool products but just checking the watches more carefully before shipping would be amazing. But this dude is a jerk and andrew did an amazing job of trying to take care of him. Shame on the buyer. Andrew is top notch, period. I smelt buyer's remorse though. Btw, I just had a very bad experience with an ebayer. I sold a mid-size OEM Omega bezel on ebay. The buyer accused me for selling fake parts. Well, it's in the original packing and I have 1700+ feedbacks on ebay. The buyer just don't care about my reputation and kept saying that it's fake, without any proof. F'in dumbass, it's not the money that matters. It's the insult that [censored] me off, I fully understand how Andrew feels. How can this be fake? Buyer's response: Dude, look at the oversized flourescent marker on bezel(dead giveaway) ...then threaten me a refund or a negative feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trustywatchguy Posted August 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Out of respect, Mods... please remove Efren's particulars from this thread if you can. I think everything should end in good note. =) Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwai02 Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 I will remove his pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreww Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Hats off to you Andrew, glad all is well in the world! BTW, you can send me efren's watch if he doesn't want it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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