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scam you with fakewatch.com says it has AAA grade and triple wrapped gold - and that its product is way superior to PErf Clones those would be LIES and would be actionable But, if your put everything out truthfully - and i'm not lawyering here not sorta truthful - but straight up - and you ask for to much - What is not available? you can check websites for original cost. - you can check modders for what their services are. - But price is personal - As someone who has sold dozens of watches here, i can say without a doubt that pricing is very competative - i offer a watch for 250 - no offers, 240 no offers 230 - all of a sudden 5 PM's if someone isn't lying about the watch - let them price it for whatever they want. Most people won't lift a FINGER to tell folks who has the best sub or best 111h - But if someone is selling a sub - all of a sudden you want to have an opinion for the newbs? Do your homework The Zigmeister you and i were both Taken by Eddie Lee when we started - no one jumped up and down on us. I just got charged 300 bucks for a POS watch by a dealer - i don't see why Used watches get such special scrutiny - Lots of people i am sure are on this board to buy reps to resell them at 2x the cost to the general public - thats many of the dealers markup - do we stop them? is what they do wrong and should be shunned by the community? As long as people aren't lying its non of our business what they want for their reps nor how much someone is willing to pay. If someone says that they have a Big Red Joe Watch that is Serviced - Call em on it - sorry but you got scammed, and you shouldn't be able to pass on that scamming to someone else.

got vetoed last year by pugs who said there is currently no movement for it when we were doing the polls. This is my favorite. although not the newvo style your posting about- problem is the 30 minute counter at 3:00 i'd settle for a maxi marine - which has just a running seconds at 6 and date - should be easily repable But - not yet and the watches are around 5k for the gen so its not even to expensive to buy and reproduce I figure they will get around to it with the random brands they are reping now like dewitt

we just did this discussion 2 weeks ago - i have made my opinion known - Price is market based. If you want to be an idiot and buy a rep for 200% of what silix is selling it for, than your an idiot - and you should pay the idiot tax - The info is freely available here - especially for forum sponsors -if your not a sponsor than your a leech - your getting the value of our info and not giving back - and i don't want to here BS about how you can afford to buy a rep but you can't afford the 5 bucks a month or whatever. I don't feel sorry for leeches no one encourages you to purchase used reps - what someone is happy paying is their own business. Unless the person lies about the watch, its movement, its condition, ect ect ect ect - this one is PERFECt, no flaws - and it has flaws yadda yadda - Stay out of the thread. WANT TO KNOW WHY?!?!?!?! Because you get into these issues and fights that you don't belong in - Funny story - Flavor Flav - someone who i'm friendly with - gave me [censored] at one time because he thought i was over charging for a pen i was selling - he thread crapped all over me - Now - many accuse him of taking liberties with the value of his work and watch sales. - Those in glass houses - IF THERE IS NO LIE - CLOSE THE THREAD AND MOVE ON BYE -

watch looks great, i want one- but, my rep budget just got blown apart wasn't there an rwg dealer who was offering these for like 600? i can't find the thread

damn i was going to have you book me some show tickets and calll a cab

i was VERY close to buying that river model As it relates to a strap - i had the BCE full gold on strap, i also have a steelfish that i had on strap - i really really wanted the TT bracelet, my father has the gen - This was the watch that started me looking for reps almost 7 yrs ago. i'm quite upset - its a very emotional let down cause i have been looking forward to this for SOOOOO long, i have a gen dial for it - that i WAY overpaid for yadda yadda - had i known i was getting the dial i would have gotten the river model by the way i got a GEN blue rubber strap on the ultimate steelfish - WOWOWOWOWOWOW i LOVE!!!!! it its hard to look at any of my watches when comparing the AR - i'm dying to get the chieftang done to the whole collection

I am writing because i am really upset with my latest purchase. I am also writing so no one else buys this rep and asks the right questions before they get theres. I think a dealer should let you know if a supplier of a certain watch has a history of problems and we could avoid the aftermath of these issues. This is a watch offered by king- I did not get it from king, but i used king's photos as a reference. To their credit it does not appear Perfect clones offers this model. As far as i know there is only 1 maker with this dial style. The case, plating on the case and crown and pushers seems ok. The dial is great, AR is par for the course for this model BUT BUT BUT The 2 tone bracelet is COMPLETE CRAP. First of all, it can not compare to the Graphite colored model i got last year. I will show you the plating issues, but, i can't show you that it is thinner, lighter and more fragile and fake feeling. It reminds me of a newbmariner bracelet - except breitlings are supposed to be way heavier. In addition to the whacky plating, the bracelet (UNDER THE SHRINK WRAP) was heavily scratched. my dealer said that this model was not "made by the HBB maker" and was inferior after i brought up the issues. - I'm not revealing my dealer at this time as i believe we'll work this out - this thread is really about warning other folks about this model. WHat really kills me is this model is the same price as the other BCEs which are apparently made by the HBB maker - I could accept this kind of crap on a 100 rep, but on a 300 REP! no freaking way here you go scratched braclet plating not only doesn't go on the sides - but it doesn't even go all the way around the top and bottom - AND THIS IS AN END LINK VISABLE while wearing the watch!' i have never really complained about a rep - and thats even when getting getting the wrong model sent, wrong dial color, wrong bezel color - ect ect - totally wrong watch well, ok, i guess i complained on the TWP issues. But, aside from that - i have never really been upset with the watch quality till now. this is the model - again King WAS NOT my dealer on this http://www.kingshowbox.com/gallery.php?id=596 and i was charged more than her asking price, which i was happy to do in order to deal with someone with a working knowledge of the English language. Hopefully soon i will be able to report a positive ending and an unveiling to my Breitling Chronowind/Crossmat franken

wow impressive

very nice - i learned early on, Richard Lawton has great tastes - and it appears many of the forum members share those tastes

AMEN!!!

yeah, its hard to be shocked at anything. they will probably argue the finishing that was done on the mov't - But, i think that is out of control

also, what no emeralds?

This thread had jfreeman written all over it it gave me an idea though - baguette of ebony stones in the bezel might look cool.

all your base, base, base, base -- All your base are belong to US! that and Peanut Butter Jelly Time! are some of the best all time internet diddys

its a great piece, i have it in blue - as soon as i get some RWG AR on the sucker - it will be a permanent piece of the collection

as far as what will they think of next, i have had the idea to create ebay stores and sell them. Basically it takes 100 feedback to have a decent reputation. Well, it wouldn't be that tuff to establish an acct, work out some really cheap sales to get your feedback to 100, especially if you cross sale, then sell the store to someone who wants to start out. Lots of leg work, but for someone who wants to skip the leg work there could be value.

i knew you were going there before i opened up the thread i just didn't know how you were getting there:) LOVE IT the availability of services on this board for our hobby can't be rivaled by any industry!!

nice, it almost looks like a computer rendering instead of a real watch!

your box is full - do you still have BCE datewheel? I'll take one

i have never been a fan of seeking the ETA just for ETA purposes - TTK has always hinted in these types of threads that even the ETAs were copies or rehashed movements. every watch i get, i assume could be defective. - Luckly, we have someone like zig, and some of us local watch people and can get many things fixed or replaced. this is a Very expensive hobby, even just paying rep prices - one reason i have taken to getting some "Gens" even if they are unbranded. our hobby has made many changes recently. - the one i still really worry about is the ability to now sell reps as Gens - i really wonder what percent of the total sales get sold as gens elsewhere.

i go nude - just me and the watch sometimes 2 watches, if its going to be cold out

is this the same documentry the fake trade that we all downloaded a few weeks ago? it was a very good documentary

my new wishlist is all hornback!

i have one in broward - thank g-d now all the canadians have someone to go to - its about time!

not the norm of the business don't forget this is an illegal enterprise - so, its really a team effort