The only male race that can pull off J12's are Asians. Yes it sounds very racist, however being Chinese myself, I see mostly black (and a few white) j12's in men.
Just got this Tugaris in the mail. It's a donor watch for the movement. Once I start the ball rolling on the 9411, I'll take out the eta 2783 that's in it. So for now, I'll admire a watch that's older than me!