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If you're quick (only 14 mins left), you can get a gen SDR bezel for a Sinn U1 - for a very good price: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120574568423&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT Cheers, W.

Hmm, that model is not really my cup of tea... but it looks like a damn good rep!

Just discovered this thread... well, I'm a big Rolex noob, but I'll be following nonetheless. Great work so far!

Now you've got me curious... Isn't it a bit strange to start a thread like this without talking to grid personally before? Is this some kind of misunderstanding?

Seems right... I think I've been through all those stages. Now I am trying to get back from #5 to #4 buy selling most of my watches and only keeping the best ones...

That's my point of view, too. I would never have tried all those watches, maybe would not even have looked at some at an AD. So yes, right you are: The watch industry shouldn't be afraid of reps. In my opinion, a rep either leads to buying a gen or the person would never have bought the gen anyway. Only very few people buy a rep INSTEAD of the gen. Of course it's not good for a high-priced brand such as Rolex if every dumbass wears one - but to be honest, I don't think it really damages the brand that much. For 99% of Rolex wearers (just an example...) I consider myself able to judge by the person alone if it's a gen or not... I am really happy I could take a look at all those watches in person, touch them, try them on, compare them to others... That would never have been possible with gens. And I would really like to do some modding, too. I guess that'll be the "next stage" or something... but unfortunately I'm all thumbs in matters of DIY... so I rather leave that to the experts! Anyway, it's a great hobby! And even if I'm downsizing my collection I will never get tired of the rep business in general. Too much fun...

Yeah, I think so, too. That's why I decided to re-organize my rep collection! Only one more watch I want to have badly - the WM9 sub. And perhaps I'll trade my UPO for the 42mm version - I think it's a bit clumsy... No more reps than for a while! And I'll keep the ones, I still have atm. Overflow, as Deniz said, may also be part of the problem... I counted about 25 rep watches come and go during the last 2 years or so. But as I said, it's hard to resist... I always want to see them in person... well, at least it's not that expensive as a hobby.

Hi! Well, I've been collecting watches for about 5 years now and have been into reps quite from the beginning. I also own some gen watches, of course. I have posessed a lot of reps during the last years, most of which I have sold on not long after I bought them. It' s not that I don't like them, in fact I am mostly very impressed by the quality of the watches and like them a lot. But I get tired of them very soon, no idea why. It's not the same with my gen watches. I have sold one ore two of those in the last five years, but all the other ones I am planning to keep. In contrast, no rep watch has been in my posession for more than a year. With reps it's more the hunt for me - I am always intrigued by new reps and want to hold them in my hands and posess them... only to sell them again shortly after that (and lose some money). It's strange, isn't it? Anyone feel the same? Or am I just weird? I sold most of my standard reps during the last weeks because of that. I only kept a couple I wear most of the time: UPO, Bond SMP, PAM111, Tag Carrera. The PAM will have to go, too (for sale atm), because I bought PeteM's Little Hero 111i. Not sure how it will turn out with that one - I always wanted to have a LH 111, but being in Germany with very strict customs I didn't want to risk ordering directly. So this was my chance... We'll see - maybe this will be the first rep that I will keep a bit longer. Or I'll go for a gen 111 and the LH will be on the market again... Curious about your opinions! Cheers, Whatever

Well said, offshore! + 10000000!

Me neither. I liked the old one better.

Definitely scammers... As you're in EU, I recommend you give PT a try (Precious Time). Cheers, W.

I agree, it's really good on the iphone. Much better than browsing the web pages. Thanks admin!

Get well soon, Pete! I hope it's nothing serious... Cheers, W.

Some goodies from Lucky Number Slevin: Sorry about that, son. But sometimes there's more to life than just livin'. I'm going to say the same thing a man with two penises says when his tailor asks him if he dresses right or left: Yes! Somebody's trying to kill you. Me.

Hi! I am in Germany and also had this problem with a rep PAM. I think your friend may be in serious trouble.. here's what happened to me: Ordered a fake PAM from Hong Kong, got a letter from the local customs office to appear there and declare what's in the package. I searched for a way to circumvent this, calles the customs office and said I was on holiday and couldn't get there in time (they had a deadline of two weeks I think). The offered "Postverzollung", which means I just send them the neccesary declaration letters and they hand it over to DHL. DHL then collects the taxes from me when delivering the parcel. Well, that never happened... I got a "nice" letter from the german customs headquarter in Frankfurt that they have discovered "counterfeit goods", assumingly a fake Panerai watch. They would send the watch to Panerai for them to check it. Bad... Didn't take long before I received a "not-so-nice" letter from Panerai's German law office. They wanted me to agree to destroying the watch and lectured me not to buy fake Panerai watches again. If I would agree to destroying the watch, I would get off with a warning, because this was the first time they caught me.. Of course I agreed and I think I am quite lucky the didn't charge me. I also got another letter from customs headquarter in which they also warned me off. So I guess I am on "black list" now... I'll never try that again, that's for sure. If there had been 5 watches in the package... well, I am not sure they would have reacted in the same way... Good luck to your friend! W.

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I had the same problem... and yes, it can be done - but it's a PITA indeed! Took me several tries and a lot of swearing...

Hmm... I guess he just changed his post after I had already replied.

I think he's been away for a few days. Someone told me he'll be back tomorrow. So don't worry! And he seems to have quite a lot of work to do atm... which is a good thing of course.

Very nice... I was involved in a rather nasty OT discussion about gun control in the US over at RG... really drove me crazy. I wish I'd already known this then... Haha, they would have banned me for life!

Hi, as I told you in my PM, mine was 30 Euro + 5 Euro shipping directly from Sinn. So maybe they're just trying to profit from the shipping fees? You could try "Point of Time", it's a German Sinn reseller. They have the same prices and maybe they charge less for shipping. E-Mail: kontakt (at) pointoftime (dot) de Cheers, Whatever

I bought 15 watches from members altogether. Only 4 of them were not quite as described and only 2 of those 4 had really big issues, the other 2 were an easy fix. That's why I prefer buying from members. By the way, it can happen to all of us: I shipped a watch to the US once and it was DOA even though it worked perfectly before. I couldn't even take it back because of the customs issue (I live in Germany). Not good... that's one of the reasons I prefer selling in EU only.

I'd say my rate is about 50/50 up to now. It's a bit strange - we really seem to accept a lot of problems with rep watches while we would have returned a gen straight away. Partly that's because of the price, sure. But I think it's also a psychological issue - we still think "Hey, what a great value", because we bought the rep for 1/10th of the gen price and therefore we tend to accept some minor issues. At least that's how I'm thinking. Problem is, if we'd return all watches with minor issues we would indeed return about 75% and all the dealers would go bust... Anyway, I also think the overall quality of reps is not too good, at least compared to gens that is. But usually you can fix most of the issues yourself. And that's part of the fun imo. Personally I think buying gens is a bit boring... Cheers, Whatever

The lume on the indices is quite OK imo - only the lume on the hands is quite bad. Cheers, W.

Hi! I think every watchmaker or watchsmith on this planet knows how to service an ETA 2824-2... that's a very common standard movement. Your watch-guy will know what to do! Cheers, W.