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Beater Monday

The dial is not a redial, it is a newly made aftermarket dial. Nothing gen about it. Here is the NDtrading 6541 (look familiar?)

I do not have any pictures of a 6541, but here is a gen 6543 From the movement picture above, it looks like the movement is gen (this movement was fitted to mid-50s Oyster Perpetuals) & may be correct for the 654x Milgauss, but the case is aftermarket, which translates to a franken. If you compare this case to Ziggy's, you can see that the cases differ in their thickness & in the way the stem is cut through the side. The only movement described for the Milgauss in Dowling's book is the 1580, but he only shows the inside of the later 1019 version. I have a few other pictures of Milgausses in my archive, but they are all the same as the 1 above. So my conclusion remains that the movement is gen & probably correct for this model, but the dial & case are both aftermarket, which makes this a franken.

To the best of my knowledge the Milgausses were fitted with a 1580, which is an anti-magnetic version of the 1570 with 1 extra jewel (I cannot remember where the extra jewel went). And unless you did a dial & case restoration, I would guess that it is a franken. But I am better with 1019s than this model, so I will check my photo archives to see if I can find a movement picture of that model & update this.

MeisterSinger N

That bench looks like a great find, unfortunately, I'm no longer in Motown.

I guess it is a good thing I checked in here before I made a mad dash out to Columbia this afternoon (I was on the other side of the world & would have had to 'fly' to make it to the GTG). This is the 3rd DC area GTG that did not pan out very well (1st was a year ago at Tysons mall & I was the only person who showed, 2nd was at White Flint mall a couple of months ago, but only DuDro & I showed up and this 1, which was canceled at last minute). May I suggest the next GTG be held at the same location as the 2nd GTG -- White Flint mall, which is centrally located within Baltimore, DC & NoVA. The mall is easy to find/get to (located right on Wisconsin Ave/Rockville Pike/Rt 355), it is rarely crowded (by mall standards), there are plenty of nice restaurants to meet at (PF Changs, Cheesecake Factory, Dave & Busters, to name a few) & there is always plenty of free parking within feet of any mall entrance. I would also recommend posting the initial announcement for a GTG in the General Discussion forum since more people would see it there.

1601 today (currently strapped)

It sounds like the movement is just in need of an overhaul (cleaning, lubing). Many 'new' reps contain used or improperly serviced movements. But what do you mean by 'Winding does nothing'? Do you mean the stem does not appear to be turning the gears when you wind it, or do you mean it winds but winding does not make the watch run? In the 1st case, there is a mechanical problem & the movement is probably not worth repairing (replace the watch). In the 2nd case, the movement needs an overhaul.

No. An appraisal by Rolex is the only fool proof way of determining authenticity. Anything else is a best guess, at best. Especially when you cannot physically open & inspect the watch/movement in person. Others will probably offer additional recommendations, but I would say the things I suggested should be considered the minimum requirements for making an online Rolex purchase when you are buying from a stranger (especially a stranger without any posted sales history of similar watches) & Paypal or some other 3rd party escrow service is not available.

Ken may be right & this could be a (good) legitimate deal, but my gut tells me otherwise. A diamond Daydate for $2,900? Poppycock! At the very least, I would not do anything without first seeing good, clear pictures of the movement and/or an original bill of sale or last service invoice (showing the serial number, which must match the serial number between the lugs (you need to remove the bracelet to see this)) by Rolex. What I see does not give me any warm fuzzies in my tummy.

If you prefer solid state & CD/mp3 over tubes & LPs, you will probably prefer quartz over mechanical, and for similar reasons.

Yes, but he posted 3-4 pics like these (each containing a different portion of his Daytona collection - it would take me forever to find the other pics in my archives) And for those who are unfamilar with this guy, his Daytonas are ALL gens & he must have close to 100 of them, including a number of vary rare pieces

For the newbies or uninformed, anyone interested in a truly sick Daytona collector, search out 'Zane' on TZ's Vintage Rolex forum & be prepared to hurl chunks (but in a good way).

Original, unmodded 6263 from DW & the 7835 from Andy (timeman.net). Both guys are highly recommended.

Marshall (late 60s Lead), yes. Thanks.

Something musical for TGIF

Good find, Alligoat. I still have reservations, but the seller does have a good track record of selling Rolex, so maybe it is gen.

The area Rolex rep was in the store & she was showing all 3 of the new Milgauss models (the 2 green anniversarys were already pre-sold so I was unable to try 1 on, but I did see it on the rep's wrist). Under the store lights, it was VERY green. I actually thought the green crystal, on its own, was kind of cool. But having the green crystal fitted to that overdone dial & blingy case made the watch look like cheap, costume jewelry. Not at all to my taste. But to be fair, I do not like most of the modern models, which is why my collecting is centered around vintage pieces. But now that the initial newness has begun to wear off, I have been noticing a definite cooling off of interest for the new Milgauss models on TZ as well. So it may not just be me.

Been awhile since that beauty graced RWG's pages. More please.

That is what I thought until I saw it in person. But I can understand why it offends alot of people (I used to be 1 of them).

Oddly, I am probably 1 of the few vintage (steel) fans who consider the new Yachtmaster 2 (in yellow gold, no less) to be a pretty striking piece of watch machinery (if you are unfamiliar with the YM2's technical feats, I would encourage you to go to rolex.com & read about it) Of course, I would never be caught dead wearing such a flamboyant watch (I actually find it less objectionable than the original YM with its raised bezel lettering), but it is definitely the kind of thing I might hide in the back of my watch box & ogle (as opposed to google) on cold, winter nights.

What kind of solution are you using in the ultrasonic?

Ziggy is right -- either brake issue or the chrono hand has become loosened on its tube (a very common problem). If the hand resets to a different position every time you reset it, the hand is probably loose. You need to remove the hand (I would do all 3 chrono hands at the same time since they are probably also loose) & apply a tiny speck of cement (I use a slow-dry metal epoxy). If the brake is the problem, this may be helpful.

Ziggy -- the problem with this approach is that the auto-winder may not fully charge the mainspring if the owner happens to be a desk jockey (like me). I do not think that tapping on a keyboard for most of the day provides a sufficient amount of movement, which is why some of our watches need a bit of supplemental assistance in the form of hand-winding. But, in my case at least, I know that my winding gears are properly lubed, which may not be the case for other manual winders.