As most long-time collectors are already aware, over the years, TZ has become more & more nanny-state-like in its prohibition of questions relating to price, specific dealers, reps (of course) & just about any other subject their moderators feel might offend their brand sponsors. Of course, TZ continues to be a great place for newbies or anyone wanting to show off their new Rolex or ask whether they should buy the white or black dial or whether trading a Double Red for 2 Omega Speedmasters makes sense. But for those seeking an open, frank & adult conversation, I think it has now outlived its usefulness. At least, it has for me. I realized today that it has been weeks since I last felt the impulse to check into TZ & that has become the norm. As 1 of its initial members (I 1st registered in early '01, prior to the original facelift), it seems like ages since I could not wait to check in to see what new debate was raging or what new technological problem had been solved by fellow members. But, these days, it seems like all the serious stuff has moved on to more open pastures.