6now

The answer: http://www.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=169216

Yeah. Alas, no engraving.

For a recent 2007 gen sub, most probability is that they still should be papers. You can haggle for a lesser price than $4.9 though.

Through the photos, the old V4 has better rehaut than V5 and V6. Sent from Android using Tapatalk

Nice distressed look. Sent from Android using Tapatalk

Where can one buy the H4 pinon without the movement? Thanks.

Wow. Simply. Wow. Sent from Android using Tapatalk

You're missing one over there. Although it might be the one you were wearing. Nice collection. Get a Newman too Sent from Android using Tapatalk

Nice Xmas presents. Sent from Android using Tapatalk

Like the two tone. Sent from Android using Tapatalk

Beautiful.

Nice one. Sell us some samples once you fine tune it. Very useful.

What case is it?

The cheap ones do bend too.

Thanks weisn and panerai for the inputs. The further jump in price from Yuki's $500+ to Phongs $1,000+ is a bit of a stretch from my original MBW budget, hahaha. But most definitely Phong is the ideal (lest a gen case). By the further explanation, it seems that building a 5513 is much easier than 1680 given that MBW's are engraved 5513s and lack of a date window. But the T127 top hat on 1680s is a striking killer look for me that I can't put on a 5513 that uses T19. I'm also having a hard time sourcing a 1520 at the moment. Is it correct to put a 1570 on a 5513? If so, from what year? I think I remember 5513 still uses 1520 by early 70's. Correct me 'tho if not accurate.

With so much modding on mbw using gen dials, I may get back to Yuki cases using yuki dials and go gen movement and other parts. I plan to occasionally use a nato so the engraving is something I can't ignore. Simply put, my initial small budget is not feasible. Thanks guys for the technical help. Invaluable vintage knowledge, as always, from you guys.

Thanks freddy and automatico. It seems Rolex pairs the movement of the hands with the date wheel: 3135 both clockwise, 3035 both counter clockwise; and this 1570 both counter clockwise too. I don't know of any ETA who has copied those. As I see, most of the Mbw lug serial numbers date them to the late 80's which would contradict my idea build of early 70's when I was born. I guess Yuki is my more affordable only option.

Hi. I'm planning to build a vintage sub and I just have a few questions that some of you may know: 1. I know that a gen 1570 movement runs counter clockwise in winding the hands. How about the date: does it turn clockwise or counter clockwise? 2. Would a 1570 fit an MBW case? If not, what would I need in order to use both? 3. Does the serial numbering on an mbw case run in sequence like the TC or is it a fixed (same) serial numbering all through out production? 4. Has anyone successfully changed the 'Polex' engraving into 'Rolex'? Thanks for your help as these are seldom discussed recently for one to search.

Are the Mbw & Yuki 55xx cases incorrect too?

My V3 can bend in all links.

Thanks for the clarification

Aren't all modern Sub 116610 supposed to have AR cyclops?

Touche.

+1. Gen 16610 SEL is a little narrower on the TC lugs.