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Looks like you got it from Andrew. Great sales guy, fastest communication among other TD's.

To add on, is it possible to change the strap to a leather strap?

Bro, you need to use ur punctuation. I kinda get your story, but find it hard to read. hehe. But yes, many gen owners don't know the exact details of many models and don't know what to look for. And with high quality reps as what we have, the construction is fairly good. But except, many details are not as well made. Like what you pointed out, the clicking noise probably does not sound as smooth. But then again, you get what you pay for, and gotta mod it to get the best out of it.

How does this compare to the Gen? Is it somewhat an accurate rep? Any feedback?

Come on, only 1 pic?!! Hows the CF btw? Is it like the gen?

I think noob factory needs to up its game. Seems like the high demand for these reps makes their quality in production lower.

To add something a bit different in this place. hehehe

So if we get a PAM111 V3, and swap the CG then it should be perfect?

More like get the gen

Oh, and I apologize to drag this thread further. But after looking at Toro's section, for some reason, his AP Volcano has the right crown height? Take a look at it, its flat? Or even his Black theme. Am I just seeing things, or is he posting the wrong pics or whats going on? When I compare the pics to Puretime, the crown position is different. Can someone verify this?

Great Idea too, saves u money Btw Legend, Have you considered the AP Shaq O Neal? It seems as though the crown seems correct. But the dial color seems to be alittle off. What do you think?

+1, and yes agreed with you. But i also think in absolute value. hehehe, damn u!! U just persuaded me not to get a Safari Rep! Argh!!

Hehe, Your silver theme is too expensive And I can't find one out there. But I'd rather get a Gen IWC or PAM with that price tbh. hehe

Very much agreed buddy You're starting to know me even than I know myself hehe.. And to add on, Hublot's design isn't exactly my kind of tea. Even the gen looks like a rep. Sorry Hublot fans

Hehehe, funny Thanks for the suggestions. Indeed your selection does have its accuracy, I assume it is because of the position of the crown, and how its not as obvious as the other reps. I was actually still thinking about the Safari, although it does bother me. But I don't have a watch with a white Dial yet, except for the Cartier Santos 100. But I don't feel that watch everyday, needs some kind of occassion to wear it, whereas the Safari seems to fit nicely with my daily wear, except of course, as you mentioned. The flaws are rather obvious to us But then again, I know I cant afford a Juan pablo montoya at this point, but a Safari is still in reach. For me, I wouldn't want to acquire a rep I could not afford, but your input is highly appreciated And about that future Ducati, bring your own oxygen mask, as Jakarta is one hell of a place to ride a bike. Like smoking 1000--> at once.

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Hahaha, looking to acquire an AP rep after handling a couple in the "market" in Indonesia. I mean I could have bought one right then and there, but I wanna support our TD's although it does take longer to come, and I'd have to make the trip to Singapore to actually receive it. Do you have any suggestions or a basic List that you'd classify as quite accurate? After all you are one of the AP masters . But your guru Watchmeister really got me thinking. It's quite true that I would not get a gen AP not because of the price per se, but because of that opportunity cost. With that price tag, I'd rather get a Ducati . But that doesn't mean I won't be considering a Patek in the future Oops forgot to quote you legend.

True, but I guess the question is that if it is a super-rep or an accurate rep. Actually quite interested in the answer. Experts are welcome to answer

Hows the LV in terms of accuracy?

To bring back thread from the dead.. Any update on this legend?

Confession: I called out on someone rep before. So I took a glimpse at it, and I knew that his seadweller was a rep. I was quite convinced because of the back color on the bezel and it didn't reflect the way the gen does. Its hard to explain but the gen has a different feel to the black. I didn't get a chance to look at it closely or inspect it. Anyhow I kept it to myself for a long time, (my parent's potential business partner) I mean I knew he could afford one easily by the approximate income he was receiving. But one day in a casual meeting, with 4 of us talking about business as per usual, Someone popped the question. " So which one of the Rolex'es is gen? " At first, I grinned as i knew mine was gen and his wasn't, but he claimed he has another which he bought at Swiss that was Gen. (To diverge, We were, and still good friends,(all of us) and I think we felt comfortable with each other to be honest and straight forward) He said claimed that his was Gen, and so I just said, "well you're gen is at home and I smiled". And he continued to pursue his was a Gen and that he got it used. So I asked to inspect his Rolex SD and begin explaining to him the faults that he had, starting with the reflection, the engraving on the bezel, etc. He didn't buy any of it, until I showed him his movement, in which the hands would reverse in the opposite direction when you turn the crown in a direction. (I learned this from the dealer which I bought my Rolex from) I'm sure not all rep movements are like that, but this one so happened to be that way. He was stunned for a minute. I felt bad and such a **** for pointing it out in his face, but it was just in the moment and I also knew we were comfortable with one another such that we wont really humiliate or put down a person for wearing a rep. He then continued by saying, he bought it used from a friend who said that they were in need to pay for the medical bills, and he sold it for cheap. Furthermore the sale included boxes and papers he said, and therefore he was convinced it was gen. In other words, his friend scammed him. Then the discussion changed and we were giving him credit for helping a friend in need, and that the money spent on the watch was well spent. In the end, I felt bad, not knowing whether I should feel worse revealing the truth to him or whether what I did was ethically questionable. But in the end, we are still good friends, and he thanked me for teaching him a new trick about the movement. But in this sense,I think that sometimes calling out reps without any evil intentions or bringing the person down might have a "ok" outcome. Or am I just justifying my wrong deeds

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Very nice! Generally, "Panerai Experts" who do not deal with reps would probably not know the good reps are reps, as they are often looking in the wrong places. From what I've noticed, the reps have everything the gen's has in terms of the 'big picture'. And most people are just staring at the details and hoping that they'd find a "FANERAI" or a crooked P, or something in that context. More often than not, the errors in the reps lies in the minute detail, such as the engraving isn't as deep, or the CG isn't as sharp, or even the lever. In which, many times it is easier to spot if you have a gen next to it, and know what you are looking for. So to answer your question OP, the Pam111 looks good on the QC, though there might be slight errors, as the other members said above, finding a PAM111 V3 is hard to begin with, and those minute errors are not easily spotted, even by PAM experts. So if it looks good to you, go get it, esp given the nice serial number.

Looking at ur pic, isn't the 5 alittle awkward?

I think Santos XL 100 is the best rep I've heard off. I have the gen and it looks awfully similar its scary. Its not super big though, I think it'd look small on u