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Hi Mush, That 90min araldite should do the job, but if you can get the slow set araldite then even better. The reason I said JB weld is because it's probably the strongest of all the epoxies but the others will do fine also. Try ask him to be a bit more liberal and put the glue on both sides and see how it goes. The more you can get the glue into a kind of thick paste the better, runny glue consistency isn't good for these jobs. Use as much as necessary to fill that gap. Any excess can be removed after, just try not to get it inside the tube. You can clamp if you want to, even a clothes peg will do. I just usually leave the watch on its side with the tube facing upwards, it's perfectly stable like this if the glue is pasty enough. The main thing is to make sure the tube is straight. Hope he can get it right, once its in place it should be rock solid after a day.

Sorry to hear that Mush, try using something like JB weld, the gen tube should be left alone for about 24 hours to cure, ...Is he doing that or is he testing within an hour or two?...cos it may not be enough time?... I'm not sure why it's not holding in this case... which rep tube was it? ...the one with internal treads or one of the rarer ones with external threads? ....reason I ask is because the external threaded rep tube one leaves an even larger gap to fill than the internal threaded one. Either way it should be just a case of putting extra epoxy on to fill hole then do the tube as normal. I'm sure someone in the US should be able to help.

Interesting! wonder are these the 35mm or the 38mm, the 38mm would make a nice dressy alternative, there aren't many in the rep world so more choice is welcome! The 35mm would be a great choice for ladys watch...another area were reps are few and far between.

Excellent. Although, have tried this a 4 times since yesterday and getting "The user name or password is incorrect" Any ideas? ....It's not incorrect btw Edit: Scrap that above, all ok on different laptop!!

No change yet, what you're seeing is pics in different lighting, I've been asked a few times in PM if the 45mm AR is as bad as 'I made out' I'll stick by what I said originally that the watch is great but the 45mm AR is nowhere near the gen or the 42mm rep. ...i.e. it has almost no anti-reflective properties whatsoever, just a slight blue tint on certain angles. As it is, it is still a great watch but I'm still hoping the factories do something with it (make it the same AR as the 42mm!)... in the long run as I'd hate to think we see it as acceptable that they coat one version and not the other. At the end of the day it's up to people what they are happy with. AR is one of those things that is hard to compare 1:1 in pics, but overall when the 45mm has AR similar to the 42mm then we will notice that 'no crystal effect' much much more. btw seraphe great pics, the watch looks superb!

Go for it, looks great, you'll hardly notice such a tiny tilt when you have the watch in person. Big qc pics always blow these things out of proportion.

Thanks, definitely the He is a little flimsy when opened fully, it seems a little more shaky on my 45mm than the 42mm when fully opened, when closed all is fine though. Don't worry too much about it. If anyone intends getting the watch wet then I'd imagine these He would be much better off glued shut and sealed in.

Great spotting, not the first time I've seen something like this. It's crazy when it happens and you'd think a reputable dealer would give it more than just a once over but sometimes they don't. I'm sure it happened recently with a well known UK watch dealer and a Breitling...but that was obviously much cheaper than this one!

Lovely job on the watch, agree its a classic and worth keeping. Also sorry to hear about your Dad, very nasty strain of flu going at the moment. Hope he gets better soon, I'm sure he'll be delighted with the watch when he gets back on his feet.

Should be an edit this post button, but sometimes they don't show up after a few posts are made on the thread. Contact a mod and they should be able to remove them. Good luck with the watch btw those SA are really good reps! Edit: Not a mod in sight, jesus they are never around when you need them

Sorry but the fact that the topic went for 4 pages means that many people had an interest, but it is less about hanging either the buyer and seller in this thread out to dry and more about how in general rep transactions are handled and what are the general rep aftersales 'rules' (if any!). Both are good guys case closed, no issue there. Most sellers live by the 'once it leaves my hands then you own it' rule. No comebacks whatsoever, no responsibility for postal damage etc. For rep sales that is more than enough imho. The trouble is it it becoming pretty obvious that a seller almost needs friggen pics of the watch from all angles and a video showing the watch working at the time of packing to back them up should something happen later. Sign of the times I guess!

Judging by some of the rep transactions that go on these days I think both of you communicated pretty well and just didn't see eye to eye this time on how best to resolve this one. Some of the communications that happen in other sales are downright awful atm, it's a bit of a minefield. This one at least ye both tried to get your point across and resolve it in PM. Lately in lots of cases buyers will just go straight to paypal dispute and on the flip side often times sellers won't even bother giving a dignified response if there is an issue. As you say put this one down to a learning experience amanamongmen. Stick around, I'm sure you'll have a better experience and some other not so good ones. Hike is a good guy really. Judging by some of the stuff that happens in rep transactions this situation is pretty minor.

Great watch, he can't let one of these go by, essential pickup

Well if a scratch like that happened on a $6000 gen I would be fcuking livid, and expect some compensation for non disclosure. At the very least a shipping back refund. I guess we all have different approaches.

Thanks for the feedback Hike! At the end of the day I don't think either of ye did the wrong thing. A simple misunderstanding. The refund offer should have been the end of it. ...I can however see the buyers reasoning also, even if it did seem a little skewed initially to not to want to return. ....The fact is buyers always come off the worst financially out of a refund so I can't blame him for trying to try 'choose another option'. For a start he looses initial shipping, then he loses shipping back. and if it was me where I'd have to stand in the post office for 45mins during lunchtime queue to get served I'd be happy to work around, there is also the issue of paypal fees adding up back and forth... I could see his reasoning that a small discount might be just the easier resolution on both sides. No right and wrong answers here unfortunately, Hike did the natural thing offering a refund, may have been a bit rigid in not bending in this case? ... buyer was just trying to be reasonable and work around another way but could have been a bit more forthcoming on the return aspect also.... both did not meet in the middle! Personally a slight refund would not have been the end of the world but everybody's different!

Yep offer of a full refund is where it should end. But as with any sale between two parties they have the discretion of working out a satisfactory agreement between the two of them if something is off. I don't think anybody is saying there should be a discount of any sort or even that we should get into these scenarios where buyer comes back and says "Hey I'm not happy with the endlink fit, I wanna discount" or "The lugs are slightly scratched from a bracelet change...I wanna discount" ....these sorts of situations arising in rep sales would be just a nightmare scenario. The caseback scratches personally wouldn't bother me too much, but as said above they really should have been disclosed. There is also a massive difference between what is tolerable on a $200 rep vs what is tolerable on a $1200 rep??. Any link to the sales thread??

I'm a little bit torn in these situations as I bought a watch last year where the seller said it had been worn for a week and looked in excellent condition from the selective photos. When I received it there were lots of scratches and small dinks all over prominent areas of the nicely brushed case.... so I hate non-disclosure with a passion. I asked the seller if in that week he had worn it building a house or laying motorways? One persons minor wear is not the same as another person and this is where problems can arise. I'm sure in this case it is more of a situation of simple error rather than selective concealment. Hike is a good guy and has been around a long time isn't the 'type' that does that above. However I do agree with above that refund is not always the end of the perfect solution to these situations, simple agreed discount is often better as full refund ends up with both parties back where they started and still loosing postage/fees and time.

The mother of all rep discussions on a gen forum just took place recently on tzeeuk, forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?194583-are-all-fakes-as-crap-in-real-life insane thread, good aspects and bad, great read in parts, some parts not so interesting....but if you're bored at work/want to really waste a few hours....knock yourselves out!

Yeah definitely a PO in this case, the monaco reps around are not the best quality, ...a good monaco rep is badly needed, but like a proper speedy rep may never happen. Always been movement fit issues unfortunately.

Yep gray would go great, I've had mine on a matte charcoal grey dimodell past few days and its great. Make sure it's a chunky strap though.

Lovely Ry, I love these, I've had two of them at different times, sorry I got rid. Still have a couple of frankens though, ...and looking out for a white dial/blue hands gen atm. One of the best all round watches going imo. Great work on the refinishing!

Either half turns or (full turns) of the crown rotation when screwing it in from the time it grabs the tube threads until it is fully screwed in (stopped) ....some people call it in full turns, or half turns, half turns is probably due to how far the wrist can rotate the crown (180 degrees). Just wondering how yours is on that one?

Missed this earlier, only seeing it now. ...Thanks for the solid feedback Wooln!

Thanks indy, lookin good. You got that inner AR to shine nicely. It'll be a cracker if they double coat the crystal. btw how many half turns does your crown have on that?