krpster Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Hello all, I have recently put through an order with one of the dealers for a few new watches. A few days later I got an email back asking me to send scans of my credit card and ID as there was some problem with processing via the provider / gateway / whatever. The money has been debited to my card but it hasn't made it to the dealer. They did say to block out certain portions of card and ID for security purposes. I was just wondering if any of you have had similar experience or not. I am hesitant to send this kind of data out. Your thoughts and comments are welcome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letter Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 No. And if so, I certainly wouldn't be sending my ID! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 No. My general rule is no one sees my ID, except: Law Enforcement Medical Professionals MY Bank / lenders. (when younger) the door man at the bar/club/liquor store. I am sure it is benign, and even ok to 'flash' your ID with certain CC purchases in high fraud areas. But 'scan' of it. NO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 I wouldn't do it period. How do you know if the dealer or someone that has access to his customer (another employee) is the one asking? How do you know if someone doesn't want the scan for the sole purpose of making copies? We have a TV program here in Oz called border patrol, in one program a Chinese person was stopped carrying rolls of blank credit card copies. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobster Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Was this a RWG approved dealer?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobster Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 We have a TV program here in Oz called border patrol, in one program a Chinese person was stopped carrying rolls of blank credit card copies. Ken Btw, I love that show. They show it in the UK too. Scared to travel Downunder now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Hey no problem travelling down here. Just don't do anything wrong or we will beat the crap out of you. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmj Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 I ve been asked to supply the same by one of the trusted dealers here on RWG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krpster Posted May 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Thanks for the feedback gents. Your reaction and thoughts are the same as mine. After the initial request I refused and asked to have my order cancelled. Their response was another request for said documentation with the re-assurance that it is secure and safe if some of the data is blocked out . Needless to say my answer is still no. At this point all I can say is that I believe it is Purely innocent but I am disappointed since it is the only place to get the model I was after (1665 GW) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 By dealer, did you mean AD or a "Collector" preferred dealer here? (Guessing the former based on 1665 comment). I would think the Admin team should inquire if we have dealer asking for extraneous personally identifiable information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJGladeRaider Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 There is no way in this world I'd go for that. I'd do a charge back and find a different dealer. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 crazy stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcollector Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 just cancel the CC order and use one of the money orders options. I'd never consider sending any documentation to any dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 I am with Tx. If you have to have a specific watch from a specific dealer add $20 for Western Union. Otherwise go elsewhere. If the payment is shown as being debited and yet he hasn't received it I would also cancel it out. That has to be a problem on his side and he should find a new gateway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 I would think the Admin team should inquire if we have dealer asking for extraneous personally identifiable information. Well said, Ronin. The Admin/Mods group have been discussing this all day. We've reached a consensus and are waiting for a couple of additional key members to chime in. When they do, we'll make a formal statement regarding how RWG views these CC requests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave123 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Long ago i was asked for this by a dealer as well (can't recall who),not a chance of that so i cancelled the order and paid another way. That was years ago so surprised this has never been mentioned.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subbiesrock Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) By dealer, did you mean AD or a "Collector" preferred dealer here? The dealer's name was very cleverly revealed, I suggest you reread the quoted post Edited May 20, 2011 by subbiesrock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave123 Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 Purely for sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wat44 Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 Angus from Puretime does not ask for ID in my experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 Sorry R but he has asked both the members in this thread so we are going to have a chat with him. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wat44 Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 np - how are you for Wednesday late arvo/night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 I made an out of country purchase with a CC a few years ago and the credit card company called to make sure it was me. About 5 or 7 years ago I bought a dial from an AD in Denmark with a CC and had to fax them pix of the CC (front and back) plus my DL. Everything went Ok after that. Be very careful with debit cards though. Some have theft and fraud protection, some do not. At many banks and credit unions, one option for low cost overdraft protection involves linking the checking account to a savings account. The problem is when the two accounts are linked, anyone with access to the debit card can drain both accounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chum_2000_uk Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 Sounds really suspect, defo worth the mods getting in touch to see what the deal is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted May 22, 2011 Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 I made an out of country purchase with a CC a few years ago and the credit card company called to make sure it was me. About 5 or 7 years ago I bought a dial from an AD in Denmark with a CC and had to fax them pix of the CC (front and back) plus my DL. Everything went Ok after that. But frankly, it is NOT required. While some stores might have an ID policy in place, while "face to face" with the cashier, it is more of a 'flash it' and they confirm the names match kinda thing. Making a digital copy of 'extra' personal information is simply NOT a payment card industry requirement. There is also a difference when dealing with a known, legitimate company, and our friends selling questionable goods from questionable places. Besides, the whole thing would be moot if using a Visa Gift Card with no name on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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