Star69 Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 am i missing something ?! why are so many Subs for sale atm ? and why are the prices to freaking high ?! even for the shitty WM9 V3s ?! don't i get for $500 a nicer brand new watch from TC ? cheers, Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 What shitty wm9 v3???? Never heard [censored] and wm9 in the same sentence! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star69 Posted April 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 sorry - outdated (the crown position is shitty - too close to the case = the watch look off 2me) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zeleni kukuruz Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 The time of the wm9 and tw is over i guess, guess thats way people are selling now when TC sub is out! The prices are high especely now when tc selling a brand new "gen taker" submariner for a little more then 500$. But many members have putt in alot of gen parts in there wm9 and tw subs guessing thats what makes the price high. But can you realy calculate getting payed for every gen part you put in if your going to sell some day? I dont calculate with that when i mod my watches with gen parts! But i realy dont know, like always Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielv2000 Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 I wouldn't say that the WM9s are done with. They are an excellent choice and am nowhere near selling mine anytime soon although I had given it some thought recently. What surprises me more is the amount of TCs being sold. Are people just having buyers remorse or is it the fact that it is really not worth the upgrade? I am by no means a sub expert. Slight differences in crown position don't bother me as I never really look at the crown. The SEL on my WM9s are more than satisfactory. After that, I've made a conscious decision not to put any gen parts on my WM9s. They work "out of the box". Gen parts are reserved on $10,000 and up vintage watches that I am trying to rep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 People are trying to get their money back out of franken watches as they abandon ship and jump onto the TC watch parade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star69 Posted April 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 that was a little provocative even the WM9 V1 is still a nice watch - the only thing i don't understand are the prices - i thought the prices go down to a lower/normal level now that these watches are wildly available again .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke1973 Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 I'm with you Star, I'm dumbfounded by the sky high prices too?? The sellers are just trying to salvage what they can from their old WM9's I think because the TC is here and is better in a few ways. They want to try to get some of the crazy high amount of money they shelled out for the WM9 back a year or so ago because they foresee the price bottoming out on the WM9 and need to move them now before they loose hundreds.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 ... i thought the prices go down to a lower/normal level now that these watches are wildly available again .... The price will eventually adjust accordingly according to the market. If people buy these at current prices this may well be the "market rate", if not the prices will decrease until people start buying them then that will be the new "market rate". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickdick Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Nothing to do with wm9. theres also a TC sub with gen parts for over 1200 dollars, while you can get new for little over 500. Either way... it is nothing new. Prices are grazy for a few years already. And it is grazy, gen prices for replica watches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 I'm selling my wm9 for a Sean case tc? Naaahhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky driver Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Hi have a Euromariner V2 with Gen ETA inside that i paid $455 for in late 2008........do you think i could get $500 for it now? after all Chris is AWAL like WM9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielv2000 Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Hi have a Euromariner V2 with Gen ETA inside that i paid $455 for in late 2008........do you think i could get $500 for it now? after all Chris is AWAL like WM9 Betcha someone will pm you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w.genzo Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Gen parts grey market has crazy prices as well, but it does not justify the premium price on a TC or WM9 Sub. If someone spends 650$ for a used gen insert and crystal that doesn't mean that you will have your money back selling that franken. I tgink that market will level the prices sooner or later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky driver Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Betcha someone will pm you! i wish they would i went a bit crazy this past week in the trade section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbh Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 sorry - outdated (the crown position is shitty - too close to the case = the watch look off 2me) Huh? WM9 v3: Gen.......... You'll need to explain that one to me cause I'm not seeing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickdick Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Considering the fact that that crazy pricing has been going on for years means even more crazy people are willing to pay (though asking does not mean getting). The current prices are the current balance. There really is no problem with the prices. Problem is the crazy people wich also really is not a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Supply & Demand I suppose. If people really want a WM9 or a highly modded TC Sub, then they will pay for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Asking price is not selling price. That's always a secret locked away in PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaza Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 The closer to gen. parts get, the lower the price of OEM will be. I give you an example, at least from my point of view. Unless you're a millionaire sitting on a minimum of $3 million in savings, It's wasteful, inefficient and financially stupid to pay $7,000 today for a Fiddy case set to build a Franken watch. It's equally wasteful to pay +$2,000 for a gen. fiddy crystal and flush it in a replica case when aftermarket sapphire crystals with gen. Specs are selling in the $150 range. Especially when you know that early runs of Pam crystals had the same distortion you see in today's reputable reps. It's wasteful to pay $900 for a gen. 111 dial and flush it in a replica Case when LH is offering a 99% identical one for 20% the cost. It's wasteful, gullible and financially unsound to pay $2,500 for a Pam 217 case back to exhibit an Asian ETA, when Jakob forges a 98% close To gen. Case backs at 10% the cost. Some prices are really over inflated.. The only gen. Parts Id be Interested in would be the movement, and sometimes the CG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HartDoc Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Yeah, I freaking love my BKWM LV. Have been thinking about upgrading, Im kinda glad the 3135 hasnt worked out yet. I would have went hog wild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 I agree with you star. I see a 6-700$ used watch, a very nice watch mind you, but nevertheless used. They add a gen insert maybe, and maybe a used gen crystal with chips in it...then want 12-1500$. I don't get it at all, I've never seen this here...rg yes, but not here. I don't mind paying top money if you have a real 1:1 case or gen case, gen movement and tons of gen parts and maybe assembled and serviced by zig.. I mean anyone can get a TC for 5-600$ and grab an insert for 150$ and about be done for a whole lot less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabularasa415 Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 I spent a lot of time thinking over BK's TE sub and decided to go for it. I'd always wanted a sub, and I'm a total pushover for gen parts on Rep Rolex watches due to the improved accurateness (cyclops mag, crown shape, insert, etc.). When I bought my TW I went for gen insert, crystal, tube and crown, and I later sourced a gen 93250 clasp. I think it's visually 99%. Do I regret having $1500+ in my TW Sub? No! Do I think I can get that back out of it? Probably not... Do I think I could ask close to it due to people's impatience and the waiting list? Probably... Prices in the sales forums are supply and demand. Most people want the franken/highly modified build, but want the immediate gratification of finding it in the sales forum. Just my .02 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star69 Posted April 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Huh? You'll need to explain that one to me cause I'm not seeing it. im talking about the space betw. crown and case - the red line see the second watch to show it better ... cheers, Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever123 Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 I agree with you, Star. I thought about selling my WM9 v2 as well, but as the only real downside on the v2 seems to be the crown position I'd rather live with that. I paid close to 500 euros for that watch (including a repair @Domi) and if I sell it now I might get - what, 400? 350? So no, I'll keep it. It's good enough. No one notices those little flaws anyway... apart from us crazy watch geeks here that is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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