dluddy Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Great post Francisco. Thanks for being the brave one to tear this movement down and document it for the community Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dani Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Great tear down thanks. Mine has gained only 30sec in the last 10-12days i consider that very very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francisco Posted July 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 So if i understand the last couple of posts correctly from The Zigmeister and Franciso, this is better than the porto and the daytona movement, but it would have been better it the transfer of mins was routed via the co-axial gear and use the jeweled gears for the transfer of seconds, If problems do happen then the graphite lube of the co-axial gear MAY be a solution but in general there is a chance that this may be a usable movement, Ok got it i think this will stay on my list and when i have the cash i think i will go for it. Thanks guys Yes, you did a very good summary. Congratulations! However, I am not so optimist as The Zigmeister. Francisco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMK000 Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Bien hecho Francisco. Que ondea la bandera. Great review. Thanks The Zigmeister for the feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Great writeup. So it sounds like a little graphite on gear E will make this a potentially very robust movement, no? Thank you, Francisco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest carlsbadrolex Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 I will say that I am in the same group as Dani, mine has been running non stop for over two weeks and has gained 6 seconds over the entire time. I have used the chrono functions quite extensively with no issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolexman Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Great work Francisco. All your effort is much appreciated. The macros are great and it's written in a way I understand most of it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italiano17771 Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 incredible post. i thank you for taking the time. from what josh told me, he stated that this mvmt is based upon the same philosophy of the new seconds at 3 mvmt. hopefully time will tell that it is as good. i had mine for less than a week and it is running great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 I like your style Fransisco..sweet ....so comptetely different from our number one genious movement wizard The Zigmeister Thank you Gran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztech Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Wow an outstanding thread. Thanks Francisco! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16a2 Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Excellent post! Would be interesting to see if any of them get sent in for a service and how this improves the running of the movement for thos whoa re having a few problems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sander Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Very interesting to read. Thanks Fransico! Unfortunately mine died last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Thanks for an excellent review. I don't really need another $500 paperweight. I was curious whether you would feel a lot better about the movement if the E gear were in fact jeweled. If I read your review correctly there are two critical problems. The first relates to the minutes of the chrono which is seldom used but the second relates to the lack of a jewel on the running seconds gear which is bound to have a problem since it is running whenever the watch is running. I agree, and like the Corgster, I'll stay away for now.... only long-term use will reveal the reliability of this. And it'll give enough time for MBK/MBW to get their version together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emuozz Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 This is a great post, very informative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shundi Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 I'm of the same opinion as Chronus and Corgi but I'm also a pessimist... hopefully the majority of these movements will run trouble free like most of the seconds at 3 I've owned! Awesome review F! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Great review. I wonder if it is possible to get a ruby put on the plate as a mod or a custom plate commissioned with a better adaption of the mod and a ruby for every cog. That way, any dead movements in the future could be fixed and and improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nikos1978 Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 mbw does not want to make 12 ap offshore because movement is very bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tricantino Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Excellent review Francisco. Now everybody knows your great work. ... by the way... and what about the future of AP ROO seconds@12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dario33 Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Great review -- thanks for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest carlsbadrolex Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 mbw does not want to make 12 ap offshore because movement is very bad WOW, its always good to get inside information like this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 mbw does not want to make 12 ap offshore because movement is very bad they did AP ROO's with the old asian slow beat 21.6k mvt...and that one is not the most praised mvt among the members.... In the end I think they will do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosnik Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Great tread Francisco thank you. Now that this finally correct AP is come I buy one too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarpo Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Francisco rules!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raguse Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Great review Francisco , the dealers have to make better this replica !!! It is not possible to pay this money for this watch !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htjhard Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Great review Francisco , the dealers have to make better this replica !!! It is not possible to pay this money for this watch !!! +1. 200-250$ as usual we bought, its not bad. But not 500$ for a piece of crap, because it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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