narikaa Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 what about rose gold? Copper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Manny Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 I'm in at 1250 and the better movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdaddy Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Who can guarantee that it's solid 14K gold. Sorry, but in the reps business it's always a huge risk. I mean who would sell that much gold for that little money? Are yo usure it's 14K? Or is it Aspires special 5K solid with 14K wrap? Just be careful and make SURE it is real full 14K gold - from the inside to the outside. I'm pretty sure that Arch was talking about 18K. I've been looking at the Casablanca and now I'm getting excited. How much? How long? Hurry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perini Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 I am interested too PM sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornerstone Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 My 2852 stainless Crazy Hours rep's back, case, crown and buckle weigh 35g so: 35 g SS =84 g. gold / 31.1 grams per troy oz =2.7 troy oz X 75% gold X 625 USD/troy oz=$1218 worth of gold. Here's how I sold it to Ms. A: In this uncertain times, everyone should own some gold to hedge against inflation and protect our savings from a catastrophic event---and what better way to store gold than in a gorgeous fake watch? She said, "That's some pretty good BS, honey, but if you have to have another watch it you might as well get this one..." Seriously, if we can get enough interested buyers this for the price of the gold alone, it's a no brainer. Let me just say, this a fantastic looking watch and fantastic value as a watch. I wish I had that kind of disposable fun money But can I point out a potential flaw (might be wrong) in your gold value calculation for those interested in the 'investment' aspect. I think you worked out the weight of the gold based on the pure density, and then did the 75% calculation to bring it down to 18cts. But the 25% that isn't gold doesn't have the same density. Stainless steel has a density of roughly 8g / cm3; pure gold 19.3g / cm3 18ct gold has a density of 15.3g / cm3 for pink (slightly less for red, slightly more for yellow) So your 35g of stainless steel would not be 84g of 18ct gold, but 66.9 g of 18 ct gold. And, of course, only 75% of this is solid gold. So your calculation would go 66.9 g / 31.1 grams per troy oz =2.15 troy oz X 75% gold X 625 USD/troy oz=$1008 worth of gold. I could be way off - so please say if I've got this wrong. As I said, even so, I think that's still a good deal and a 'lot of watch' for those that can afford it. Best of luck guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Let me just say, this a fantastic looking watch and fantastic value as a watch. I wish I had that kind of disposable fun money But can I point out a potential flaw (might be wrong) in your gold value calculation for those interested in the 'investment' aspect. I think you worked out the weight of the gold based on the pure density, and then did the 75% calculation to bring it down to 18cts. But the 25% that isn't gold doesn't have the same density. Stainless steel has a density of roughly 8g / cm3; pure gold 19.3g / cm3 18ct gold has a density of 15.3g / cm3 for pink (slightly less for red, slightly more for yellow) So your 35g of stainless steel would not be 84g of 18ct gold, but 66.9 g of 18 ct gold. And, of course, only 75% of this is solid gold. So your calculation would go 66.9 g / 31.1 grams per troy oz =2.15 troy oz X 75% gold X 625 USD/troy oz=$1008 worth of gold. I could be way off - so please say if I've got this wrong. As I said, even so, I think that's still a good deal and a 'lot of watch' for those that can afford it. Best of luck guys! If you are right you broke the news ever so gently. It`s out off my league. If i had that spending money i would buy a used moonwatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo75 Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 OK Arch...stupid question. Is the buckle solid gold as well? Also...any word on the dealer. A warm fuzzy will make it hard to keep me of the wagon on this one. Thx much Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shasta Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I'm in for a decorated 2892 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdman Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Let me just say, this a fantastic looking watch and fantastic value as a watch. I wish I had that kind of disposable fun money But can I point out a potential flaw (might be wrong) in your gold value calculation for those interested in the 'investment' aspect. I think you worked out the weight of the gold based on the pure density, and then did the 75% calculation to bring it down to 18cts. But the 25% that isn't gold doesn't have the same density. Stainless steel has a density of roughly 8g / cm3; pure gold 19.3g / cm3 18ct gold has a density of 15.3g / cm3 for pink (slightly less for red, slightly more for yellow) So your 35g of stainless steel would not be 84g of 18ct gold, but 66.9 g of 18 ct gold. And, of course, only 75% of this is solid gold. So your calculation would go 66.9 g / 31.1 grams per troy oz =2.15 troy oz X 75% gold X 625 USD/troy oz=$1008 worth of gold. I could be way off - so please say if I've got this wrong. As I said, even so, I think that's still a good deal and a 'lot of watch' for those that can afford it. Best of luck guys! You are correct. Also the thickness of the gold may not be the same as the Stainless. You cannot look at this as an investment. Though it seems like a good deal for a solid 18kt gold watch. One other thing, I do a lot of alloying 14kt and 18kt gold for castings and there are a lot of different alloys that will give you different shades of rose gold. This being said, I am interested if it is one of the dealers that I have dealt with and not one of the more difficult dealers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I think we are talking about $1500+ here guys. You what? For a replica? I was seriously considering it until I read that. That's a genuine ... something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcrooz Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 It is actually one of the nicest gold watches I have seen but sadly outside the boundaries of logic for what I'd be willing to fork out for a rep. It is beautiful though, and the more I look..... no..... no..... stop.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris5264 Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I couldn't find the size of this piece, I'm assuming it has 20mm lugs, but aren't there are least two sizes of the Mullers in this style? I like the larger ones but would hate to pay this price and get small watch (small for those of us used to pams). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAHLER Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 (edited) Who can guarantee that it's solid 14K gold. Sorry, but in the reps business it's always a huge risk. I mean who would sell that much gold for that little money? Are yo usure it's 14K? Or is it Aspires special 5K solid with 14K wrap? Just be careful and make SURE it is real full 14K gold - from the inside to the outside. The price is "too much" good... answered please. Who guarantees ? With rose gold we are very under of the % of a yellow gold 18k... who is the dealer ? I couldn't find the size of this piece, I'm assuming it has 20mm lugs, but aren't there are least two sizes of the Mullers in this style? I like the larger ones but would hate to pay this price and get small watch (small for those of us used to pams). Frank Muller Casablanca For Man Dimension : width 45mm (32mm), height 39 mm, often 11 mm http://www.replicawatchreport.com/replica-...casablanca.html Edited July 6, 2006 by MAHLER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archibald Posted July 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 On edit: Please read cornerstone's post about the gold content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Seeing as you can get a Genuine Casablanca, albeit not in 18ct gold, for three times the price of this replica, I'm finding it really hard to get on board. Who covers missing/confiscated watches? Too risky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasng Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 For 3 times the price? Tell me where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 For 3 times the price? Tell me where. If you hunt around, you can get used Franck Mullers for just over £2500. http://www.blowers-jewellers.co.uk/watches_franck_muller.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4fun Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 If you hunt around, you can get used Franck Mullers for just over £2500. http://www.blowers-jewellers.co.uk/watches_franck_muller.htm I want gold I want gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 The Dealer: since the money will be sent directly to the dealer, every serious buyer will know who he is before they send the money. You will be pleased when you read his name. It is not Eric or whoever another poster has speculated. I have an idea of who it is, but an enquiry elsewhere has yielded a figure in excess of $2k. This one seems a lot cheaper so I am wondering how this is possible ? Is the dealer already in possession of these watches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcrooz Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 I have an idea of who it is, but an enquiry elsewhere has yielded a figure in excess of $2k. This one seems a lot cheaper so I am wondering how this is possible ? Is the dealer already in possession of these watches? good questions - can we see some pictures of the reps if they're already produced? The pictures posted in the initial post are gens right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch512 Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Here's a write up of this watch (with the decorated 1892) on Replica Watch Report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornerstone Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 An Update: First the gold issue: I think the mistake the previous poster made was an extra calculation dividing the density of 18k gold by .75 The density figure of 18k gold already takes into account that 18K is 75% gold( that's why it's density is less than 18k gold and why the different colors of gold have different densities), so multiplying by .75 is redundant and innacurate To lay this to rest, I'll have the dealer weigh the piece and then we can determine the value by the spot price of 18k scrap. Just for the record, the density figure I gave was the density of 18ct gold (taken from gold.org). So I am still correct to multiply it by 0.75 to get to the weight of the actual gold. Fair enough if you're going to weigh it instead, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tescardo Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Look at Eddies album !! Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionking Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Eddie has the 18k 750 fm with genuine 2892 decorated movement. Pictures taken from Eddie's album yes solid gold model does exist in replica. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcrooz Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 It really is a beauty isn't it... Did anyone have the dimensions for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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