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It's gorgeous. And beautiful pictures too. I'm impressed.

You forgot to mention the end links which are solid like in genuines, not like in the old versions: What a magnificient rep! I guess I have to update my TT Sub reference guide again.

It has been repped already, kinda. Not this particular version but the SMP chrono. Not extremely accurate but still. PS: Notice how the 7750 6'o'clock subdial is "slipping" even in the factory pic. Doesn't give out very convincing picture of the movement, eh? http://perfect-clones.com/omse10013-300m-p...nos-p-1088.html

Indeed. Of course I have that nice album. I also love Pete's solo career which doesn't get enough respect. White City and Iron Man are my personal favourites.

But Dear Watson: You only had to look 2 posts back. The link is in my signature.

Hi Eunomians...nice to see you back!!! That DW looks cool as always.

Good morning Ubi...or good evening (whatever you have right now). I have this on my wrist right now:

I'd have plenty of ideas and feedback for the rep factories but those bastards never listen.

That's very true...what you said about Bentley. Same goes with the new TAG Link Chrono, or PO 4th gen. All are amazing, amazing replica watches and like I've said before: year ago people were happily buying highly inaccurate Bentleys with faux chronos. I have absolutely NOTHING to complain about those watches. And you're correct: missing "t" from Switzerland engraving on the CASEBACK goes to anal retentive department (imho). But Rolex Submariner is probably the most famous watch in the world. And probably the most replicated watch in the world. It's very simple watch, very simple design compared to something like Bentley. And yet they can't do it right, no matter what. I believe only in RWG there would be hundreds (if not thousands of buyers) who would purchase a visually 97% Submariner immediately. The case depth is too low (or high in some cases) and the inner ring/crystal merging isn't smooth... but gives the plastic white and "matte" appearance. It's wrong in every single of these standard rep incarnations. Bezel and winding crown always look wrong. They have attempted to do better crown guards shape but every single rep is easily spotted. I believe doing exact replicas isn't easy but it's still beyond me why such a simple watch can't be done properly after dozens of new batches... when we get amazing 1st generation versions from something as complicated as Bentley. Not complaining, and I'm not even interested in Submariner anymore. It just bugs me.

@Andrew: Why do the replica factories refuse to make the crown guards of the Submariner right? It must be intentional? Do you happen to have any "inside knowledge"?

Yeah. Axl Rose and Guns'n'Roses stole the whole image in the 80'S... and kids loved it. There's always the new generation of sheep to buy these same old rock'n'roll clichés... it gets a bit tired after 30 years you know...that's probably why so few new bands are interesting. Everything has been done over and over again thousand times. I recently read an old Pete Townshend interview in "Musician" magazine from the late 80'S. The article criticized the beer sponsors Who used in their comeback tour 1989. Back then sponsors in arenas were unheard of...and against the commonly accepted "rules". Kinda pretentious, since pop music has always been about money, mainstream and masses. Well anyway... in that article he admitted that he got money from the guitar companies in the early days of "The Who". They sponsored his "rebellious" guitar smashing. Townshend was hilarious in that article. The interviewer (JD Considine) was disgusted when Townshend said he'd even sell "My Generation" to advertise laxative pills any day if he got enough money. You know..."My constipation"... I'm sure his purpose was just to piss of the interviewer but at least he was dead honest about it. I have always loved his sick sense of humor and his music. He's a true rock genius if I ever see one.

Insignificant? Where did I say that? I don't see things black and white. I'm saying that he was part of a great rock group, but Barrett's work didn't impress me _personally_ as much as the works they released after his departure. Arnold Layne, See Emily Play, etc. were very "Beatlesque" material and the Barrett-era is very much different from the generally known Pink Floyd "sound" (that we love). And the psychedelic material they played in the beginning was mostly due to their non-existant playing skills (according to Waters himself). Maybe some people see it revolutionary or "art", maybe it was... but it still doesn't impress me today. Neither did the first post-Barrett album Ummagumma which is mostly just noise. Pink Floyd became musically important band after that (just imho of course). And shame about his fate, but I've become a bit cynical about all drug-related "heroic" rock'n'roll stories. Yes, people say his breakdown was was tragic, but at the same time "Syd Barrett's endless LSD trip" always added mystical aura over the Pink Floyd name...which had little to do with their music. Sometimes I felt they used Barrett's fate to help and build certain image for themselves... which is very important in pop music. Not to say Barrett wasn't important figure in those early years but I'm saying (again) that he got too much coverage when people discussed Pink Floyd over the decades. They weren't pretty boys, they didn't destroy many hotel rooms but Barrett's story was exciting to general public...and very much "rock'n'roll". PS: This my personal view, don't take it as gospel.

The picture is from a genuine Submariner. Still, it proves absolutely nothing. He could have stolen the pics anywhere.

Yes, but they're all behind bars right now.

Order from the EU-based dealers: Narikaa or Precious Time. There, problem solved. Dunno about Homer these days... if he's still active?

Debatable. Waters found the band along with Barrett... and Mason & Wright joined almost immediately. While "Piper at the Gates of Dawn" was mostly Barrett's work I'm sure Waters was the leading member from the beginning. Nothing to take away from "Piper" which was kinda revolutionary album, but nothing compared to the post-Barrett works (just forget Ummagumma). But you know, music taste is always a subjective thing.

Great choice. And excellent photos. Good work and congrats!

Here's mine. Quartz DateJust from circa 1987 (from Thailand). Never bought another battery for it. It was embarrassing even 20 years ago. May it rest in pieces.

Pink Floyd...used to be a great band. I don't know how much I like the early Syd Barrett works though... I think his effect on Pink Floyd is grossly overrated. They made all their important and most creative works after Barrett's departure. But of course: sex, drugs and rock'n'roll is so chic... and it sells lots of albums, so the band members (or their image consultants) always liked to keep Syd Barrett's long LSD trip in the conversations. Roger Waters was/is the most important figure of Pink Floyd (imho)...in good and bad. It's funny how much better album "Amused to Death" is than "Division Bell". But guess which one toured huge arenas and sold multi-million copies? The brand is very important in pop music...and that light show. Nothing against Gilmour's Pink Floyd though. But I hope he has enough sense to let the band rest in peace. Oh yeah, this was about Syd Barrett. I guess I should feel very sad that a rich ex-rock star and drug addict dies at the tender age of 60, but I don't. Yeah, I'm a cynical, bad person.

If that watch is "perfect" my name is Hubertus von Hohenlohe. Don't believe the hype. Dial is excellent. But absolutely horrible crown guards, huge crystal etching...and why do you think the pearl isn't showing?

Both are genuine watches without a doubt.

Maybe it's just a fan? You know what the song says: "It's a thin line between love and hate".

True. But I recall Watcher owned a genuine SMP. If he didn't spot the alignment issue I'm sure it's not that big of a deal, really... That GMT is such a lovely watch. Does this version have a display back?

You're absolutely correct Robert. I will most likely get this watch eventually...can't resist it much longer. PS: I just hope that we get Chronomat in same quality. It's by far my favourite Breitling...though the Bentley is growing on me every day.