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I just received a Cartel 'ultimate' dial and hands. Unfortunately it seems that the minute hand is a fraction smaller than the hour hand. Also the lume - which is supposed to be great - sucks. It's even worse than the standard version. Currently I favour DSN's PAM088 as the base for the perfect PAM088. Swap the dial for a standard Cartel dial, add in some SL and CG modding (pin and lever) and you're very close to 99%.

For me the definition of a dress watch is easy: keep it simple and modest. So definitely no SS bracelets or chunky chronos. Seconds, date and perhaps a GMT or PR should be the only complications. I would set my mind on Lange, VC (Patrimony/Malte series), GO (Pano series), JLC (Master Control series), PP (Calatrava series) or the more afordable Longines (Master series) and B&M (Classima Executives series). My personal choice would be the JLC Master Hometime, GO Panomatic Reserve or the PP Calatrava.

Here's SSSurfer's comparison pic between gen and DSN dial. http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showto...mp;#entry473873 Only the 24 hour numeral fonts seems a tad too thin. Also the DSN dial has a slightly lighter black finish than the cartel's. The last time I had an I-series gen in my hand, it seemed to have the lighter black dial as DSN's.

Thnx!

@JurgenK: Does the DSN dial fit a standard rep case 1:1 or did you have to cut the dial to make it fit?

For me it would be: 1. IWC Portofino chrono black 2. PAM111 3. Tag Heuer Link Chrono

No work has been done on my crystal and I didn't pay anything.

My PAM088 case got in yesterday without being worked on. But at least it's back, so case closed for me.

Great post, Toad!

I own the DSN PAM088, but I don't like the blue film which is supposed to be AR. In the past I owned an 'ultimate' PAM164 and I liked that AR way better. Not sure if I like the DSN CG better than the one from the 'ultimate'. But the CG should match the serial number on the back. If I'm not mistaken Panerai changed the shape of the CGs with the introduction of the H-series. Angus's caseback is an I-series. So the V-CG would be a perfect match for that. DSN's is F-series so the flat CG is the proper match. So combining a DSN dial/hands/movement with an 'ultimate' case + V-CG could be the best option for a 'perfect' PAM088.

Looks great! So the DSN dial fits a standard rep case 1:1 or did you have to cut the dial to make it fit?

Congrats my friend! But now that you have both a black and a white gen Rolli, the time has come for a gen PAM111/112

Enjoying my glass of red at the moment makes me very thankful for your repost of this great thread. Thnx!

Maatje, I missed this thread completely. My deepest condolences. This must be a very hard time for you and your family.... Take care and give me a call anytime when you feel the need to.

Sorry Stephane, but this one is definitely worth repeating . No modern keyboard or softsynth can beat this beast. Too bad you will always need an extra pair of muscles to carry this around

That's an awesome combo!

I used to do this for work. Now it's just a nice hobby.... Seems this is going to be a very musical thread

I think I'm going to try this out as well

The most WIS I do is that I keep all my unwinded watches set at 10.10 in the watch box (At the time I took my signature pic I didn't know that it's not a good idea to handwind your watches everyday)

Maybe you can start your search here http://www.joshwatch.com/panerai-c-35.html. If you don't find the model you're looking for it probably doesn't exist.. Note that Josh is just one of our dealers. There are many reasons to choose or not choose him as your dealer, but his site is one of the biggest. Good luck and happy searching!

This http://www.exactreplicas.com/panerai-black...ca-Watches.html is an example of a very bad rep. Not worth more than $5,-. I cannot begin to describe what a difference the reps from our dealers make. Anyway, to each his own..

Awesome pics. Congrats!

Uhm, I only saw the first link. You must be kidding?

Sounds like the rotor fell off. If you can open the caseback and post a closeup pic we can be of more help.