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I'm not expecting to become a qualified watch maker either. This is just a hobby and I want to know and understand more. If I got good enough I would help friends out, but doing it for a living would defeat the purpose of early retirement:-) A friend of mine was a watch maker and Rolex approved repairer until recently. He felt his eyesight was no longer up to the job and only does clocks now. I bought a ton of Bergeon and Rolex tools from him, some of which I have no idea what to do with currently.

I've looked into that and will probably enroll as soon as I retire. Also planning to do a few courses with the British horological Institute.

Getting caught with a gram in Southern Ireland can lead to prison, but smoking is still rife especially among the under 35s. I haven't smoked anything in more than a decade, my only vices are red wine, watches and books. Sad really.

It looks very good now, but personally I think the second hand is too brilliant white. I just looked online at gens and of course over the decades there has been a mellowing of the paint. They are mostly still very white, but seem not so stark white. IMO it is a very small detail that would give it a huge boost forward.

As far as I remember there were a very few made in that case style with an automatic movement. But an Oysterquartz dial isn't going to look right with a sweep second hand.

Fair enough G, I understand your point. Being totally pedantic I think the work of our most talented members could be called tool room copies. Some of your Sea Masters are approaching that quality. Taking what I know from the car world, a fake is generally seen as a bit dismissive.

@anniqu welcome to the forum, you are definitely in the right place for advice on watch repair and connecting with people who have the skills to do it for you. It is true we generally call them replicas or reps, but come on guys, I'd didn't know we were so thin skinned, especially when dealing with a new guy. It's a nice watch whatever. I know you are both Crew, so is there some implications I'm missing here?

You may, it is an online auction site mainly for the sale of crafts.

You really are getting better and better at this Bart. Guys, you think these look good in the pictures, you should see how much better they look in real life.

A blue gator is really going to make that look good. Please post updated pictures.

Great post G, MOAB was totally right that yesterday was a day for remembrance. But we owe it to those who have paid the ultimate price and those who have paid a terrible price and have live with it, as well as to our sons increasingly daughters who will pay tomorrow's price to understand the reality of war and the cost. It ain't like the movies.

^^^absolutely^^^ They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.At the going down of the sun and in the morningWe will remember them.

Don't feel ashamed M, you are a good man. I can tell you that many ex service guys who have seen conflict would never sign up if they had their time again. Don't fall for the duty to one's country BS, some wars have to be fought, many don't and if the war mongers couldn't find recruits and had to do the dirty, blood business end of it themselves, they would be a lot more keen on other solutions. The brutal fact is that war is good for the economy, war monger tend to have stocks and shares, while soldiers tend not to have

Don't know for certain, but it is the right address. Could be Phong or his son Jensen.

I parked the car and kept the silence alone. We should remember all the time not just one minute a year. Following on from something @droptopman said in another thread, yes Europeans stereotype Americans as Americans stereotype Europeans and there are many British to this day who sneer that America was late into both wars and joined at the end, then tried to steal all the glory. There is no glory in war. Both sides loose, but one side generally looses more. The simple factual truth that even my father, an educated man with a keen grasp of history and politics, will never admit, is that Britain was on its knees staring defeat in the face during the Battle of Britain. America saved our [censored]. There is no dishonour in admitting it. Our soldiers and particularly airmen fought like terriers. Often bailing out of downed 'planes twice in a day, only to climb back in and face near certain death again. We simply didn't have the resources there is honour in what our ancestors did, but there is also honour in acknowledging what others did and probably in finally acknowledging that the bombing of Dresden and the sinking of the French navy AFTER it had surrendered were war crimes. Remember the cost of war and those that paid it and continue to pay it. I have seen too many guys sleeping in the streets and being unwanted by the society that was happy enough to send them into a war. America in particular has seen too many body bags flown home from the Middle East in recent years. Most of whom where from blue collar families, not the rich elite that are keen on war. Remember all those boys, the dead and the damaged and remember also the boys next in the line. Remember also that in modern warfare the majority of causalities are innocent civilians. Look for every option before warfare. I'm ranting a bit, but ex soldiers and their welfare is something very close to my heart.

I agree, it's a cool and funky watch

Hell Nikki, I'm a fan of breasted anyone. I like to have at least one near me when I sleep.

Well there is the answer to the migrant and illegal immigrant crisis that none of our politicians want to talk about. They want to come to western countries to improve their lives. Nothing wrong with that, except it should possible to improve their lives in their home country, then they won't want to flood into the west and will be happy to bring peace, democracy and tolerance to their own countries. As a welcome side effect, they won't want to wear suicide vests either. For too long our western governments have talked a good talk about aid and help to poor countries while economically raping them and encouraging western businesses to do the same. The best way to stop Mexicans running the border is to make life in Mexico worth living. If mankind worked together, there is no end to what we could achieve.

@docthor Your point of view is not wrong. In any discussion, political or otherwise, facts can be proved incorrect but the only point of view that is wrong is the attitude of "you are wrong and therefore have no right to live". I have just kept the minutes silence and remembered those who died in war, particularly the two world wars. This first one was essentially an argument between cousins that should have never have cost so many millions of young lives. The second one was a fight against fascism. It happened that facists gained power in Germany and I notice among my German friends an ingrained feeling that they need to constantly apologise for events that happened before they were born. Hitler was Austrian and of Jewish ancestry. Britain not only had a large fascist party, but had a king who openly supported such views. Fascism, racism, xenophobia and other ills were on the rise then just as they are now. The reason was the same, depression and austerity. All over the western world, the middle classes are being squeezed to the point that they are struggling to keep going, the working class are being sh@t on from a great height and the richest 0.5% have seen their wealth grow exponentially. The very people who caused this misery, are the only group to have benefited from it. Clinton is in bed with those people, the bankers. Clinton would have put a good PR spin on more job losses, more cuts and more bull. I don't really think anyone knows what Trump will do, other than it will be different to what was established practice in politics. i think he is a vile man, as I think Clinton is a vile woman. Sadly that was the choice and one of them had to win. So now he is president elect and will be sworn in as president. I once went out of my way not to meet him. In the very unlikely event I do meet him in future, I would greet him with warmth and address him as Mr. President. Not because I like him anymore but because not to do so would be an insult to the office and to the American people.

I think a number of recent posters have hinted at something without hitting the nail on the head. In many countries, not just the USA the majority of people are sick of the way spin doctoring has come to dominate politics. Trump, whatever else has clearly said what he said without apology. People respond to straight talk. Then there is the racist card. I think again we feel we are no longer allowed to notice racial differences and in the end that is a huge game of Emporer's New Clothes. The liberals noticed the first black president and used it as a tool, so they are not exactly practicing what they preach. We notice the colour of our girlfriend's eyes and her hair, yet if we notice a skin colour we are racist? At work I can refer to the whiteboard, but can only refer to a chalk board, never a black board, so now black doesn't even exist as a colour? We know some of the most highly respected members of this board are not Caucasian. We call them are brothers and mean it, seeing racial characteristics is not a crime, but we are increasingly made to feel it is. The crime of racism is when one makes value judgements solely on the colour of a persons skin. The truth is most of us know and believe that and we are made increasingly frightened to say it. Race is nothing more than historic adaption to local conditions, we are one species, most of us are of mixed blood if we look back far enough, about three hundred years or so to a negro ancestry in my case. If you have red hair, you can be sure I will call you brick top or Duracell or something. Doesn't mean I think you should be sent to the gas chambers. So maybe MOAB is right, people voted "sick of bullsh*t" more than anything else. And maybe the political parties of the world will take notice of their electorate and change.

Gentlemen, I don't normally post on political threads, they have a tendency to become a clusterf**k of bad feeling and insult throwing. Personally I have disliked Trump for many years, but sadly Clinton is not an angel either. I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat, nor in fact an American. I have respect for both parties and for the system, but not for the candidates fielded this year. I came across this post and while I might not agree on the minutiae, the general drift seems a much better appraisal of the situation than the view that it is the end of civilisation as we know it or the beginning of the age of Aquarius. "I remember JFK's election, and his assassination. And I remember every presidential election since then, from Lyndon Johnson to Barack Obama. They include the reptilian Nixon, the front-guy Reagan, the WASP Bush1, the good ol' boy Clinton, the dimwit Bush2 and the talks-a-good-talk chancer Obama. Oh, and on the way, Jimmy Carter, the only one who seemed to have had some sort of moral compass even if it went into a tail-spin on occasions. Every one of them imposed the US diktat on the world using whatever weapons and subterfuge they had to hand. Hilary Clinton was cool with that sort of 'diplomacy'. She was as bad as the worst of them. Libya proves that, and that is just one piece of evidence. Her relationship with Israel, whatever that entity's grotesque excesses, is another. Her personal relationship with the vile Madeleine Albright, who thought that the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children was 'a price worth paying' for Bill Clinton's sanctions against Iraq, is another. And the list goes on, not least in her indifference to dreadful economic hardship for the many in the US brought about by Wall Street and the rest of the neoliberal gang of which she is part. US. Light of the World. Exceptional. A City upon the Hill. And so, it is Trump, an uncouth bastard and a champion chancer, a snake-oil salesman par excellence, who gets to swear on the bible. Educated liberals at home in the US or at home in Ireland and elsewhere, who couldn't give a [censored] about the physical, financial and emotional rust-belts that they have created in the austerity-heavy, concern-light, western world, weep into their cappuccinos with wails of 'how could they do this to our dreams?'. Well, that's how. Sow, and reap. You could have had Bernie, but no. You bought into the 'First Woman' scenario, the same as you bought into the 'First Black' scenario. Obama failed, especially for Blacks. H Clinton is not representative of any woman I've come across in my long life, with the exception of her best friend Madeleine Albright and that other vile psychopath, Maggie Thatcher. Don't panic. Take a deep breath. All of the US institutions are still in place, all of the political class and its functionaries, including the media, are still ticking over. The Military-Industrial Complex is in fine fettle. The corporations are in control. Trump will be on a leash. He will [censored] about with various things, including the Supreme Court, but he won't have it all his own way. And if necessary, if it gets to that, he may end up going the JFK route. Hope and change. Remember?" I purposely used a word at the start of this post. It is something we pride ourselves on hereabouts. So Gentlemen, it is time to congratulate those of our brothers who won, commiserate with our brothers who lost and remember that most if not all countries have survived a leader who was a less than pleasant human. Agree or disagree quietly and in a gentlemanly manner. Now back to the real business, let's talk watches over by the champagne fountain.

Love he dial, I like blue watches. Glad you got sorted with something cool.

Congratulations G, seems like a very sound and well deserved choice to me.

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This type of information is always useful. I have to say on this particular watch, the rep bezel is good enough for me