mymanmatt Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 I sold a watch on Jan 20 2015. Yesterday he opened a case with pp. He said he bought a gen from me ad turned out it was fake. I cannot find any emails from him. Is ok to publish his name and email here to see if someone knows him? Thanks UPDATE He withdrew the claim with pp. Maybe because I checked the box to return merchandise for a full refund. He may have been planning to ship an empty box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenTLe Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Gosh... What happens in these cases? I mean is he forced to send back the watch (so he is refunded) or he can keep both watch and money? I truly hate dishonest people :E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Matt we do not post personal info , is he from here? Well addresses, why don't you PM to discuss further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachcomber Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Did you sell a Gen? Just curious. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 comber I would think Matt made him one (rep) and now he pulling a fast one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachcomber Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Now that's shitty Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civic4982 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Hmmmm that's lame . This is precisely what I worry about. All unknown buyers I sell to them only as gift. Sadly some countries don't do gift. And so I just won't sell to them. Sent from the my iPhone using Tapatalk s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitmic Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 What a fukking loser! What's wrong with people nowadays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 I am sorry to hear about this, honestly. The guy should be named or at least, his paypal address made known, to prevent others from becoming victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpz5142 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Gosh... What happens in these cases? I mean is he forced to send back the watch (so he is refunded) or he can keep both watch and money? I truly hate dishonest people :E Unfortunately in the US he'd be told by paypal to destroy the watch and he'd be provided a refund. So as scammer he will get the watch and his money.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenTLe Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Unfortunately in the US he'd be told by paypal to destroy the watch and he'd be provided a refund. So as scammer he will get the watch and his money.... What about proving to PP that he knew it was an hand made not original watch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtguk Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Hate these scammers with a vengeance Just hoping it wasn't one of our members....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymanmatt Posted April 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 If I could find any emails from him, I would send them to pp, but I can't find any Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Info will be provided after I look into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 OK guys do not sell to this &*^$# , Esad redzovic, email is nedimredzovic1990@gmail.com. based in North Carolina USA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 As we only have email to go on trying to back trace this guy for Matt, working on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astonjenks Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 What a SH1T AJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Matt is a super nice and honest guy, and I know from a whole lot of dealings with him, phone conversations, etc. he is as honest as the day is long. This asshole is trying to get his money back and the watch to boot. I'm sure he knew exactly what he was buying, and I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't scammed others. I hope that this can be worked out in Matt's favor, but knowing PayPal, unless you are one of the big time sellers on EBay, things seldom work out positively for your side. The probable consequences of this is Matt will have his PayPal account frozen, and it will create a hardship on both he and his customers. Maybe in the long run only accept PayPal gift, or go back to the old fashioned way, "mail me a Postal Money order for the deposit and I'll build you a watch, and then another postal money order for the balance, shipping upon clearance of the funds", at least do this for any unknown that pops up out of nowhere. Good luck Matt, I sure hope this works out in your favor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droptopman Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 ^^^ agreed 100%. Matt is a great guy and always easy to deal with. Truly one of the good guys and one that can be trusted completely. He has built me a bunch of watches and we communicate frequently; he is always friendly and professional. One of my favorite people on any forum. Pretty sad that some asshat is trying to scam him. Terrible situation especially if there are no records to support the case. I hope a fair resolution presents itself. There have been rare cases on other forums where even with a PP gift, PP has issued refunds. So that is not even a guarantee that you will not get scammed. Pretty much limits who I will deal with moving forward. I will do anything I can to try and help, good luck Matt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seafoam Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 That sucks! Sorry you're having to deal with this mmm. To the buyer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seafoam Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 OK guys do not sell to this &*^$# , Esad redzovic, email is nedimredzovic1990@gmail.com. based in North Carolina USA. Can we assume he's a forum member? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derik429 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 What a [censored]. Matt has helped me out before and a gentleman to deal with. Hope this gets resolved properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Can we assume he's a forum member? Matt is not sure here or RG so we are back tracting through email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rower Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Can we get the guys address and have members near there "pay him a visit" so that he understands the error of his ways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpz5142 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 What about proving to PP that he knew it was an hand made not original watch? In the US it's selling of the rep that is illegal not possession, so he'd then be admitting to a crime and then paypal would not only refund but freeze the account and Matt would loose the ability to hold a paypal account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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