ShawnBeever Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 http://www.corvuswatch.com/index.asp?page=watchbands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterOfPuppets Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 how did u find that?! im sure alot of rolex fans will be thanking u, what a cheap price for a strap that has been made exactly like the gen thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Absolutely fantastic I don't think I'd actually wear a Sub on one, but damn, that would be worth getting solely as a collection piece Thanks for sharing the link with us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornerstone Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Very cool find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmg Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Nice find SB!! -Finally a correct Bond strap. I noticed their FF homage, looks nice and has pretty serious specs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnBeever Posted March 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 It’s strange that they don’t do it in 16mm though which from memory was the width of the one in the film. If you look at the pic’s there is a large amount of spring bar showing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJo35 Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 I can't wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Thanks for sharing the link. That's awesome. I've been waiting for a correct strap for some time, gotta get one of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Thanks for the link. They must have read this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkwbkw Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Anyone reach them or hear from them about the availability of this strap? I've filled out the 'contact us' form looking for a definitive release date but have not received a reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Great info. I had no idea that it was a tri-colour band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightight Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 I have to say I'm a bit doubtful that no-one has noticed this on the original film but when reprocessed to digital it appears. Could it be bleed between the two colours? Also the black and grey are standard regimental colours, I quote - "The colours are actually the genuine regimental colours of the General Service Corps, and it is appropriate that a spy would be attached to the General Service Corps. Military (Army) personnel employed on covert intelligence duties were seconded to the GSC whilst employed on these duties but Commander Bond RN would never have been seconded to the GSC as a Royal Navy officer. They are also the colours of a London Gentleman's private club." Bond's strap is highly unlikely to have been a specially produced one and is more likely to be one that is widely available. Have any of these straps with the thin red bands turned up anywhere? That might be a better possible proof. The jury is still out on this one as far as I am concerned. Also I like the Black/grey look! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 I have to say I'm a bit doubtful that no-one has noticed this on the original film but when reprocessed to digital it appears. Could it be bleed between the two colours? Also the black and grey are standard regimental colours, I quote - "The colours are actually the genuine regimental colours of the General Service Corps, and it is appropriate that a spy would be attached to the General Service Corps. Military (Army) personnel employed on covert intelligence duties were seconded to the GSC whilst employed on these duties but Commander Bond RN would never have been seconded to the GSC as a Royal Navy officer. They are also the colours of a London Gentleman's private club." Bond's strap is highly unlikely to have been a specially produced one and is more likely to be one that is widely available. Have any of these straps with the thin red bands turned up anywhere? That might be a better possible proof. The jury is still out on this one as far as I am concerned. Also I like the Black/grey look! Did you read this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightight Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Did you read this? I hadn't read your post Freddy, but again you talk abut a screen shot. That has to be digital correct? It is that which creates the doubt in my mind. These red strips do not seem to have been noticed in the film stock I assume. I do stress that you may well be right, but for me at the moment there is doubt, and I don't like the look of the straps with the red strips in any case so I'll keep the grey/black one. Also the grey/black one is so ingrained with the public at large I don't want to give the great unwashed another reason to say "That's a fake, the strap is all wrong" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJo35 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 I hadn't read your post Freddy, but again you talk abut a screen shot. That has to be digital correct? It is that which creates the doubt in my mind. These red strips do not seem to have been noticed in the film stock I assume. I do stress that you may well be right, but for me at the moment there is doubt, and I don't like the look of the straps with the red strips in any case so I'll keep the grey/black one. Also the grey/black one is so ingrained with the public at large I don't want to give the great unwashed another reason to say "That's a fake, the strap is all wrong" This has been well known, and discussed ad-infinitum on various gen forums, bond forums, and rep forums. It's been in the film forever, with some saying years ago that it was a mistake due to the technicolor process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 I hadn't read your post Freddy, but again you talk abut a screen shot. That has to be digital correct? It is that which creates the doubt in my mind. These red strips do not seem to have been noticed in the film stock I assume. I do stress that you may well be right, but for me at the moment there is doubt, and I don't like the look of the straps with the red strips in any case so I'll keep the grey/black one. Also the grey/black one is so ingrained with the public at large I don't want to give the great unwashed another reason to say "That's a fake, the strap is all wrong" I realize the prevailing contention is that Connery's Sub was fitted with a black & gray NATO strap in the early Bond films, But I believe that supposition is wrong. The screenshot I posted was taken from my 'restored/remastered' DVD copy of 'Goldfinger' as displayed via VLC Media Player (my monitor is color-corrected). I have an un-remastered VHS copy of 'Goldfinger' (probably 20 years old at this point), which, although considerably poorer in quality than the DVD version, hints at Bond's strap as containing some shades of color other than black or gray (the print is not clear enough at this time to make out the exact colors, but they are definitely different than the other 2). And, although it has been many years since I last saw a cinema (celluloid film) showing of 'Goldfinger', I recall seeing the same red bands, which is the reason I spent the time to research this & post my DVD findings. Of course, my findings are just that, my findings. But I am quite confident they are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 I believe the misconception arose due to the access people previously had to the footage. It's much easier to determine a detail when one can pause and 'frame by frame' an HD DVD, than if one was, say, sitting at the back of a cinema, and only getting an 'on-screen glimpse' of the detail. There are people in the world who think that, in Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, Anakin Skywalker wore black clothing, where the truth is, he wore dark brown... People's perceptions are what are being called into play here, against the hard facts. Having seen the stills provided, I am in no doubt whatsoever that there is a red stripe in the weave of the strap, however, that is a case of having an 'untainted sample' in front of me for unlimited examination, rather than a quick glimpse on a cinema screen, and I can quite understand how someone who has not had such an oportunity of examination, to simply think 'Yeah, grey and black...' Someone can be wearing charcoal pants, and the majority of people will simply think they are black... They might 'look black', and people might think they're black, but, that doesn't mean that they actually are black This strap is a prime example of that. I don't think the red is caused by any kind of result of the filming process, but rather an entirely intentional decision during the weaving of the fabric. This level of detail might have only recently come to light, but, that does not mean that it was not their all along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camfam Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 (edited) Hi Guys! Thanks for noticing my Real Bond NATO project. This grew out of a series of discussions over on the Military Watch Resource Forum. It's been a long process and a bigger investment than I had anticipated, but I think everyone will be very pleased with the results. As for the debate about the colors, I would urge everyone to go out and get the new early Bond films on BluRay disc. I highly recommend this new technology. Viewed on a 1080dpi television, the level of detail is amazing. On the Dr. No disc they have a special feature that is a short documentary about how they digitized the films for BluRay. They went back to the original negatives (almost unheard of when making prints -- usually a "master print" is used.) Each frame was digitally scanned at a resoultion HIGHER than the 35mm film stock, so every bit of visual information was captured. These BluRay discs look better than the movie did on the big screen. The bottom line: The red stripes are clear and obvious both in Thunderball and Goldfinger. The mystery really is solved. If you are interested in getting one of the Real Bond NATOs, please register for my mailing list at: Sign Up Form Link This will put you on the early sale notificaton list and make you eligible for special offers. Below is a photo of the actual prototype webbing of the straps. Thanks again! Cam from Corvus Edited April 6, 2009 by camfam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Hilts Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 How very cool of you to drop by the site. I have Goldfinger on BluRay and he's 100% correct. Definitely going to get one of these for my gen 5512. Hi Guys! Thanks for noticing my Real Bond NATO project. This grew out of a series of discussions over on the Military Watch Resource Forum. It's been a long process and a bigger investment than I had anticipated, but I think everyone will be very pleased with the results. As for the debate about the colors, I would urge everyone to go out and get the new early Bond films on BluRay disc. I highly recommend this new technology. Viewed on a 1080dpi television, the level of detail is amazing. On the Dr. No disc they have a special feature that is a short documentary about how they digitized the films for BluRay. They went back to the original negatives (almost unheard of when making prints -- usually a "master print" is used.) Each frame was digitally scanned at a resoultion HIGHER than the 35mm film stock, so every bit of visual information was captured. These BluRay discs look better than the movie did on the big screen. The bottom line: The red stripes are clear and obvious both in Thunderball and Goldfinger. The mystery really is solved. If you are interested in getting one of the Real Bond NATOs, please register for my mailing list at: Sign Up Form Link This will put you on the early sale notificaton list and make you eligible for special offers. Below is a photo of the actual prototype webbing of the straps. Thanks again! Cam from Corvus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 If you are interested in getting one of the Real Bond NATOs, please register for my mailing list at: Sign Up Form Link This will put you on the early sale notificaton list and make you eligible for special offers. Below is a photo of the actual prototype webbing of the straps. Cam from Corvus Cam - Thanks for the post (I have registered on your list). It looks like you got the design & colors right but, to be clear, Bond's strap was not a NATO. It is just a plain strap with a buckle at 1 end (see this link). If your plans are to make NATOs, would it be possible to produce at least 1 plain strap for me (though I think it is highly likely that others will request the same thing)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 I think Cams "RAF" style would be the right one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 I think Cams "RAF" style would be the right one I agree, but, with his reference to 'NATO', I wanted to head-off a mistake in the making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmurphy926 Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Hi Guys! If you are interested in getting one of the Real Bond NATOs, please register for my mailing list at: Sign Up Form Link This will put you on the early sale notificaton list and make you eligible for special offers. Cam from Corvus Thanks Cam...I just registered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimster Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Think I'll give one a try on my 5513. That fold over link has always looked cheap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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