Since I can't control my OCD I'm not looking for the perfect pre-v movement.
As you can see by the pic below the balance wheel on the pre-v movements is a little different (seems like the original Unitas style) from the pre-A and more modern movements.
Is it possible to find such movement?
Very "smart" move by ETA. Kill your customers (or at least try). That will only strengthen the position of the Japanese manufacturers like Citizen with the Miyota 9015 that's kicking the ETA 2892's ass.
And of course Mr. duche Biver would approve of that. After all Hublots are nothing more than Chinese parts with an ETA movement (just like our reps).
if this was a vintage model I'd understand (manufacture new parts, fit, test, etc. all by hand). With a new model that's absurd.
On the finish I wonder if they are cutting corners to save money. The entry level ones like the Calatrava will probably suffer the most. Also I've heard skilled workers are in fast decline so their bandwidth is probably very limited.
It's a shame. Such a powerful name in the industry.
there's something about the Santos that's unique (not sure if because of it's history or unique design). If you guys have not had the opportunity to try one go to an AD. You won't be disappointed.
It wears are big as my 44mm PAMs for some strange reason.
Can't wait to get mine. It should be here soon. What are the options for strap since I'm not holding my breath for the stock one?
The gen Santos XL is 38mm.
The dimensions listed on the Cartier site include lugs and CG which is kind of misleading imho. They list the XL as 51.1mm x 41.3 mm but that's from lug to lug, side to end of CG.
The vast majority of watch dealers list 2 sizes for Santos:
Mid Size - 33mm (way too small for me)
XL - 38mm (the right size and the one Unreg is showing here)
I believe there was a monster XXL (chrono only) that I tried at the AD once and did not like it. I haven't seen advertised anymore.
I was laughing when they were "warning" the public that buying counterfeit toys can be done with lead based paint. Aren't the real one also??
The manufacturers use the same suppliers are the counterfeit folks. Interesting that if stamped by an established brand they magically get all better.
Expected.
I find it funny the bogus billions of dollars they claim are lost. I own a number of watches that I would never buy for the retail price of the gen. Just not worth it. So how do they actually get to those numbers.
The other thing is the "lost jobs" claims. Most of that stuff is done in China to cut costs. The only difference is that instead of sending the lion's share to corporate they pocket the money.
I'm really surprised those companies are not lobbying congress to use counterfeiting as a tax right off. At the end I doubt those companies are actually being hurt by any of this.