RickFlorida

It's strange that the neck size of the cartel case is so near gen. But their bezel is so off and loose that they have to glue the insert. My guess is that they make the midcase but purchase the bezel from someone? Or....... It's faster and easier to fit the bezel parts if they are too big. At any rate, you have to spend 80 bucks to replace the bezel but it's worth it.

Thank you for checking, Nanuq. Appreciate this site very much.

We should have told the OP by now.... Check out the Cartel build by JackFlash on the forum. He describes all the tools he used. Even the tool used to countersink the Athaya crown.

OK. Well do I hear 1.3mm anyone?

Yes, can we please fix the pictures? Since this is a pinned thread? Thank you.

I meant in terms of purchasing a drill bit. With a 1.2 mm you can drill once, test fit and will probably be too small, and then drill again with a slight twist of the wrist. But I agree, if he can find one with a 1.25mm it will simplify. I do see 1.25mm bits for sale in U.S. but are they in Australia?

For replacing the loose as hell cartel bezel, you can buy a Swiss made bezel and retaining ring combo on ebay. I think it's the same as Clark's because you have to polish it.

I would suggest smaller than the above 1.4 mm for lug holes. You can always go bigger but if you drill too big you are buggered! Most of the builds people drill 1.2mm.

I'm new but yeah, people use parts. I know you can buy good endlinks from wholesaleoutlet ( seller on eBay). But that does not replace the weird connecting link on the cartel with the line across it. So from reading the forums, it seems options are to find an old MBW bracelet, try to find and mix match parts, or a 800 dollar gen. What I don't understand is that with the giant world of Rolex replicas....How is only one source providing the same faulty 93150 bracelet to all the different sellers? That line on the connecting link clearly shows on the Yuki photos and comes on the cartel bracelet.

But the price difference is insane to go with gen. If the endlinks are bad and the clasp, isn't it cheaper to replace the clasp with gen. (200) and endlinks, etc? A gen bracelet is nice but nearly 800 dollars or more. If you look at the Yuki bracelet image from his website, doesn't it show the same line that runs across the connector to the endlinks? This means it's the same exact maker and flaws unless that is not the flaw he means.

Good lord this hobby is frustrating. There are excellently replicated newer complete subs with complicated rehaut engravings but no one in China makes a decent older style oyster bracelet anymore? How do they not care about the demand which means money?

So star time does show the individual links as Italian made. But is the 75 dollar complete bracelet Chinese I assume? Why don't they sell a complete Italian made stainless submariner bracelet I wonder.

If the old MBW's are better than the Yuki's, or the ones that come on Cartels....Etc... Why is no one making rep bracelets as good as the old MBW's? Why did they have a higher attention to detail to any of the rep bracelet makers of today? Or is it just there is less demand for the older Rolex reps that use this bracelet now?

Great info. Thanks.

OK, thanks. So is the Yuki bracelet better in those regards?

But is there any difference to the bracelet that came with the Cartel? I'm only asking as I'm kind of new but from reading it seems all of the rep. 93150 Bracelets are pretty much equal... ( Aside from purchasing separate end links).

I am suspect of how much they are corroded. It makes me think the corrosion could be synthetic. (Use of salts compound, etc). Unless the metal is zinc, you would have to submerge them in saltwater to look this bad. But it is possible the hands were not artificially submerged in a corrosive compound.

What shirt are you wearing?

You guys can tell the insert is gen from these crappy pictures? Impressive.

Sorry for dumb question but would an original 5513 case have the same dimensions as this original 1961 5512 case in these photos with the caliper displays?

Etsy used to be tightly controlled so that only hand made crafts could be sold....then, just like everyone else in America..... They sold out for a fat pay day and let resellers on who didn't make the items they sold. I guess the founders sold it and now it sucks. We ruin everything in America due to greed.

This is the GREATEST post I've seen on any forum in a very long time. Humorous, witty... Well done my friend, well [censored] done. Of course, it's easy to make fun of us Americans, we obviously are idiots.

Specs please? Obviously, the movement is Gen I assume? But what is the other nice components?

Is there really no way we can amplify the input so the apps will work more consistently?